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06-26-2008, 11:48 AM
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Re: Pastoral Internet Regulation & Control
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Originally Posted by Baron1710
Did you report this to your pastor?
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Actually, he happened to be in my office and I yelled whoa!, and started laughing. I told him and he started laughing and said did he need start supervising me while I typed! LOL!! 
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06-26-2008, 12:13 PM
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A Student of the Word
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Re: Pastoral Internet Regulation & Control
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Originally Posted by StMark
If there's nothing to hide then why would anyone have
a problem with it ??
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A was pointed pointed on another post, the software can be edited, i.e., modified key words, I suspect IP and url addresses, etc., in this case, the church can set whatever filter criteria the "pastor" or appointed "monitor" chooses, including political, religious, educational, entertainment and other sites one may visit.
Does one really want another person second guessing your motives and purpose for surfing the internet, perhaps taking exception to your political ideas, monitoring the religious sites and research you might be doing, what business sites you visit, etc? This software can be used for a lot more than just monitoring and reporting porn downloads.
Or is there no longer any fear of God who see and knows all things and weighs you, even your thoughts in His balance. Are we then at the point where we no longer fear God's judgment and/or no longer have a desire to please our Father? If that is truly the case, then no amount of "monitoring" will help. Close the church and move on.
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06-26-2008, 12:33 PM
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Re: Pastoral Internet Regulation & Control
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Originally Posted by MissBrattified
To be blunt, a man who can't look at porn because his pastor is looking over his shoulder can still THINK about porn if the heart problem isn't fixed.
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Like many have already stated, I would never attend a church like this BUT IF I DID, I can only imagine the fun I would have by GIVING the pastor some juice links to "search out"! Maybe about 10-20 pages worth.......
hee hee hee
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06-26-2008, 12:36 PM
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Re: Pastoral Internet Regulation & Control
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Originally Posted by StMark
what about "obey them that have RULE over you" ???
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I understand your logical train of thought here, but does "obey them..." only apply to pastors (as many pastors would have us to believe)? Or does it apply to everyone who has any authority over you? Would you give your boss at work the ability to install a web filter or cameras in your home? Or dictate the type of "marital relations" you engage in? Or when you can or cannot take vacations and to what locations?
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06-26-2008, 12:55 PM
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Tired of it.
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Re: Pastoral Internet Regulation & Control
As long as he would provide all of us with a copy of his own internet activities on a daily basis.....
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06-26-2008, 01:50 PM
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Re: Pastoral Internet Regulation & Control
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Originally Posted by DerrickS
As long as he would provide all of us with a copy of his own internet activities on a daily basis.....
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Yeah I agree but that would never happen.
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06-26-2008, 01:59 PM
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Re: Pastoral Internet Regulation & Control
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Originally Posted by RandyWayne
I understand your logical train of thought here, but does "obey them..." only apply to pastors (as many pastors would have us to believe)? Or does it apply to everyone who has any authority over you? Would you give your boss at work the ability to install a web filter or cameras in your home? Or dictate the type of "marital relations" you engage in? Or when you can or cannot take vacations and to what locations?
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My thoughts exactly.
At what point does a Christian have to answer to God? I agree that accountablity is important, first with your spouse and someone other than that if the situation calls for it, but it seems way to controlling for a Pastor to be that involved in the lives of his congregation.
If one is more concerned about what a Pastor thinks than what God thinks, there are more serious spiritual problems than the internet.
I don't go anywhere online that I would be ashamed of, My children could look over my shoulder at any time, and we purposely leave the History set to check, but I don't think I would want it reported all the time.
I think that these kinds of "fences" encourage weak Christians, because they always know that "Pastor is watching"... and they forget that ultimately it is God who we must please, not man.
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06-26-2008, 02:02 PM
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Re: Pastoral Internet Regulation & Control
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Originally Posted by Pro31:28
I got that... 
That is actually what my daughter has always called her brother (He is going into high school, she into middle school) |
They must have some Texas and/or southern blood in them somewhere........ 
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06-26-2008, 02:04 PM
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Re: Pastoral Internet Regulation & Control
Any one that would require that from members I would say has a deep problem...stay around long enough and you will find out...
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06-26-2008, 02:05 PM
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Cross-examine it!
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Re: Pastoral Internet Regulation & Control
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Originally Posted by cneasttx
They must have some Texas and/or southern blood in them somewhere........ |
Does Southern Cali count?
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