Have You Been to WWPF Lately?

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[QUOTE=Brad Murphy;513635]I strongly believe that the anti-television folks place their anti-television stance above God Himself... this single, silly superstition against this communications medium is more important to them than all of the things that they have in common with other people of Apostolic faith.


I know it seems that way on the surface, but in my opinion TV has virtually nothing to do with them turning in their cards with the UPC. The shennanigans that have been going on with many from the chairman on down, (and ESPECIALLY the foreign missions department and the outrageous matters that go on there in the "upper level management" people has brought many many of these men and women to a tearful, life altering crisis or decision making crossroads. Many of them have just come to the point where the image they had of the UPC confronted with the reality of what it was fast becoming in THEIR experience just allowed them to walk that road no longer.

One thing that is interesting is that you feel they wanted to stop participating with OTHER Apostolic people based on a common salvation rather than common stance as to this issue (tv) or others, but aactually that has been the vey NATURE of the organization being discussed. If you DOUBT that ask any long time Apostoluc minister who does NOT hold license with that organization and many of them can tell you tales of such pain and often times hilarious yet still sad stories of the wall that has been built up BY the UPC and the rest of the Jesus Name movement for decades.


I know that in MY personal experience on SEVERAL continents and through three decades with that group I cant think of a SINGLE positive experience with them, in fact some of them perpretrated by their regiona directors of missions both in Asia and the European Middle East region are of such a nature that they can only be called deliberately and calculatedly EVIL (you may quote me) that and the destruction that the foreign missions department has either wittingly or unwittingly wrought upon national indigenous Apostolic group after national indigenous Apostolic group especially in many of the former "Iron Curtain countries" as well as in central and south America has become known among many of the missions minded pastors here at home and when they read the correspondence issued from Headquarters on the various situations it makes them see that what they have tied to themselves and the Public image it has created for the run of the mill saint are incredibly incredibly at odds. Many of them feel exceptionally disturbed at perpetrating on the saints what many of them have come to firmly believe is a lie.

I think that for a good many of them the truth of what they were a part of really hit home when they saw the pleading letters of Brother Solomon who heads the men in Ethiopia who did NOT embrace the doctrine that Jesus possessed no humanity in him at all but was merely a very solid theophany or appearance of God, they had been horribly and savagely persecuted By brother Teklemarian, having not only their own lives jeopardized, as Teklemarian notified the secret police of that former communist dictatorship of any of their meetings so that they could be brutally beaten, arrested, and thrown into prison, but also his crusade to either confiscate every church building that these people had built or at the least have it demolished and every stick, wire or brick carted away so that they could not rebuild. The letter sent out directly to Brother Haney pleading with him to use whatever remaining pull he might have with Brother Teklemarian for mercy and a cessation of this persecution of the brothers for their stance for truth ( the truth of the incarnation of God in HUMAN flesh,). What was the reply from Brothrer Haney the chairman of the the organization they held in such high esteem their entire lives to the savagely persecuted men and women of Ethipoia????

"This is the only response you will receive from us, DO NOT LOOK TO THE UNITED PENTECOSTAL CHURCH FOR HOPE"

Followed up by a letter from the foreign missions regional director NOT to the saints holding on to truth but rather to the Apostolic Church of Ethiopia ministers (the group dissfellowshipped ...supposedly but dont you believe it) BY the UPC for its "Divine Flesh" doctrine telling them they had nothing to worry about from the UPC that they were NOT going to offer any kind of fellowship to these brave men and women being persecuted for truth, but rather that the men back in Ameerrica who were upset by the direction taken by Brother Teklemarian and his group were actually men like the Cretans, Lust filled men "whose God is their Bellies" (Brother Richardson.)

This of course gets even MORE despicable, and is but the very most tiniest part of an iceberg that lays BELOW the surface of the face put forward by the UPC GOVERNING body. Does the average member of the UPC have even an Inkiling of the iniquity going on behind the scenes? Not on your life, (but GOD does) to them UPC means that form of doctrine and clean living that was delivered to the saints back in Jerusalem so many centuries ago and any attack on IT is to them the same as an attack on FAITH. I firmly believe that it is HIGH TIME that we wake up to the fact that the structure of the Lords church is rrevealed in the Bible, and doesnt include the kind of horrific activity going on in the high places of man made organization.



And to those who think I am "UPC BASHING" believe me they ALL have the same nature at heart, that nature that showed itself back before Abraham when a group of people felt the overwhelming need to "Make us a name, and build us a tower to reach unto heaven lest we be scatterred" unfortunately they ALL have one thing in common....they are all made of Man Made Bricks held together with Slime. I believe the POSITIVE outcome of all of this is that there IS a very agitated but prayerfully so group of YOUNG men and women of God who are ready to step UP into the dimension of solely basing our fellowship AND COOPERATION with each other based on our being washed in Jesus blood baptized in Jesus name and filled with Jesus spirit, rather than some cardboard laminate card issued from Saint Louis, Mo. (Or Shelbyville or Memphis or Indianapolis or what have you.) Gentlemen you may now commence firing......