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Re: Black National Anthem?? What in the world...
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Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea
Did no such thing ... my attempt here is not to appear balanced but to offer a perspective to a thread that does not have another varying view ... thus trying to bring it back to the center ... capisce?
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Playing the devil's advocate, or posting what you really think?
It really isn't necessary, you know, because there are black men and women who post on this forum, whose views I would actually prefer to hear, than someone who is just pretending he knows what its like to be persecuted and enslaved.
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To see no possession but you may possess it—enjoying all without labor or purchase—
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07-03-2008, 10:26 AM
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Re: Black National Anthem?? What in the world...
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Originally Posted by MissBrattified
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You have extrapolated offense at inappropriate behavior into freedom-suppression and "frowning" at the celebration of said freedom[s].
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Inappropriate behavior ... who says and why? Because it was rude and not patriotic?
Or because it came from a black standard that was used?
You need decide why you are calling this inappropriate and whether this in insult to all or just a few ....
This slaps in you the face because ????
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07-03-2008, 10:28 AM
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Re: Black National Anthem?? What in the world...
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Originally Posted by MissBrattified
Playing the devil's advocate, or posting what you really think?
It really isn't necessary, you know, because there are black men and women who post on this forum, whose views I would actually prefer to hear, than someone who is just pretending he knows what its like to be persecuted and enslaved.
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No I'm not African-American ... but have mixed blood, Miss B, as a person of Caribbean heritage. My grandmother was black Puerto Rican ... and so I stand somewhere in between in the rainbow of bleeding hues that God has created.
And still have faced racism as a man of color ... not even close however to what others have ... including family members and kinsmen who are of a darker hue.
Now that we have discussed pedigree ...
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07-03-2008, 10:30 AM
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Re: Black National Anthem?? What in the world...
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Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea
Inappropriate behavior ... who says and why? Because it was rude and not patriotic?
Or because it came from a black standard that was used?
You need decide why you are calling this inappropriate and whether this in insult to all or just a few ....
This slaps in you the face because ????
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Daniel,
No offense, but to hear you plead the case of African Americans who suffered thru slavery and racial abuse throughout the 60's, 70's, etc. is like me bemoaning the horrendous working conditions and degrading objectification endured by Vegas burlesque dancers.
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07-03-2008, 10:31 AM
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Re: Black National Anthem?? What in the world...
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Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea
Inappropriate behavior ... who says and why? Because it was rude and not patriotic?
Or because it came from a black standard that was used?
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I couldn't care less where it came from, but I think that YOU believe that is the reason I care. Which explains your effrontery on this thread.
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You need decide why you are calling this inappropriate and whether this in insult to all or just a few ....
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Again, I've already explained my opinions, clearly and honestly. I "need to decide?" You are implying that I have some deeper, darker motive that perhaps I'm even unaware of. And you don't see how that is condescending?
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This slaps in you the face because ????
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It doesn't "slap me in the face." I said it was inappropriate on her part--stupid at best, divisive at worst.
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"God, send me anywhere, only go with me. Lay any burden on me, only sustain me. And sever any tie in my heart except the tie that binds my heart to Yours."
--David Livingstone
"To see no being, not God’s or any, but you also go thither,
To see no possession but you may possess it—enjoying all without labor or purchase—
abstracting the feast, yet not abstracting one particle of it;…."
--Walt Whitman, Leaves of Grass, Song of the Open Road
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07-03-2008, 10:34 AM
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Re: Black National Anthem?? What in the world...
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Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea
No I'm not African-American ... but have mixed blood, Miss B, as a person of Caribbean heritage. My grandmother was black Puerto Rican ... and so I stand somewhere in between in the rainbow of bleeding hues that God has created.
And still have faced racism as a man of color ... not even close however to what others have ... including family members and kinsmen who are of a darker hue.
Now that we have discussed pedigree ...
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YOU have discussed pedigree--I haven't offered mine, and I'll leave you with your assumption that I'm purely white, descended no doubt from German fascists with the abuse of Jews, blacks and all other minorities in my background.
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"God, send me anywhere, only go with me. Lay any burden on me, only sustain me. And sever any tie in my heart except the tie that binds my heart to Yours."
--David Livingstone
"To see no being, not God’s or any, but you also go thither,
To see no possession but you may possess it—enjoying all without labor or purchase—
abstracting the feast, yet not abstracting one particle of it;…."
--Walt Whitman, Leaves of Grass, Song of the Open Road
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07-03-2008, 10:35 AM
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Re: Black National Anthem?? What in the world...
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Originally Posted by MissBrattified
, than someone who is just pretending he knows what its like to be persecuted and enslaved.
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In case you missed what you posted. Sorry if you can't say gradations.
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07-03-2008, 10:36 AM
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Re: Black National Anthem?? What in the world...
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Originally Posted by Michael Phelps
Daniel,
No offense, but to hear you plead the case of African Americans who suffered thru slavery and racial abuse throughout the 60's, 70's, etc. is like me bemoaning the horrendous working conditions and degrading objectification endured by Vegas burlesque dancers.
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LOL!!! Nicely put, Michael! 
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"God, send me anywhere, only go with me. Lay any burden on me, only sustain me. And sever any tie in my heart except the tie that binds my heart to Yours."
--David Livingstone
"To see no being, not God’s or any, but you also go thither,
To see no possession but you may possess it—enjoying all without labor or purchase—
abstracting the feast, yet not abstracting one particle of it;…."
--Walt Whitman, Leaves of Grass, Song of the Open Road
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07-03-2008, 10:38 AM
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Re: Black National Anthem?? What in the world...
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Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea
In case you missed what you posted. Sorry if you can't say gradations.
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What? I know you think you're persecuted.
I don't even know what you mean by "gradations." Degrees of what? You're not even at a 0.1 on the Persecution Richter Scale. If you were being hit by a Persecution Tornado, it'd be a -F10.
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"God, send me anywhere, only go with me. Lay any burden on me, only sustain me. And sever any tie in my heart except the tie that binds my heart to Yours."
--David Livingstone
"To see no being, not God’s or any, but you also go thither,
To see no possession but you may possess it—enjoying all without labor or purchase—
abstracting the feast, yet not abstracting one particle of it;…."
--Walt Whitman, Leaves of Grass, Song of the Open Road
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07-03-2008, 10:39 AM
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Re: Black National Anthem?? What in the world...
I keep trying to decide how to respond on this thread, I just don't get it. Can any group create their own anthem and start singing it in place of the real national anthem... I guess they could, but why? Is there an Irish railroad workers anthem that someone forgot to teach me?
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