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07-07-2008, 10:15 PM
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Re: Can A Person Be A Smoker & Still Be Saved
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Originally Posted by Sherri
You're right. Eddie and I still laugh about a really large UPC minister who was ranting and raving over people going to the rodeo!! Never did figure that one out.
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The rodeo? What on earth could be wrong with going to the rodeo? Well, never mind, Sister. This thread will get hijacked and 50 pages later, when the smoke clears (no pun intended  ), someone will end up banned, another will end up with their feelings hurt, and untold numbers of lurkers will never view Christianity the same way again. Ya heard me?
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07-08-2008, 05:21 AM
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Re: Can A Person Be A Smoker & Still Be Saved
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Originally Posted by Sam
One preacher was asked if smoking would keep a person from Heaven.
His answer was, "No, and it actually may get them there sooner."
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We had a pastor that once said, Smoking won't send you to hell, it just makes you smell like you have been there"
After I posted this, I saw Micheal Phelps had quoted the same thing... Sorry  (guess great minds think alike)
What about fire-fighters? They intentionally run into buildings filling thier lungs with smoke, in order to save a human life, is that wrong? (I know this is a stupid question, but this post has gotten a little crazy!)
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07-08-2008, 05:31 AM
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Re: Can A Person Be A Smoker & Still Be Saved
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Originally Posted by BrotherEastman
One doesn't really have a choice when it comes to eating food. I'm sure that there are bad preservatives and other unknown chemicals in most (if not all) foods;however, smoking is a choice to satisfy the flesh for no productive reason, at least with food, you get some nutritional value out of it. Come on folks!
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But people do have a choice when eating food. Is there any nutritional value in a candy bar or a piece of cheesecake, or a soda? IMO Pringles (once you pop, you just can't stop) can be addicting too.
I myself go to Olive Garden and every time I go, I know I overeat, those breadsticks are fabulous! I don't think this will send me to hell, but I also don't use that scripture for judging smokers either.
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Her children arise up, and call her blessed; her husband also, and he praiseth her.
"You will be hated for my sake-Just remember that it should be for MY sake and not YOURS-
Do NOT act in such a way as to be offensive, and then blame it on me"
Love, God
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07-08-2008, 05:41 AM
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Re: Can A Person Be A Smoker & Still Be Saved
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Originally Posted by Rico
Does this mean you are admitting to being a contributor in other men's sins, seing as how you are a big wig as a cereal factory? Hmmmmmm? 
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Guilty as charged, Yer Honor!
However, we are reducing the sugar content in all of our cereals.....same great taste, less processed sugar!
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07-08-2008, 05:45 AM
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Re: Can A Person Be A Smoker & Still Be Saved
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Originally Posted by BrotherEastman
Did I say that, or are you just artistic enough to put words in my mouth Hoss? We're talking about eating food compared to smoking cigarrettes. Overeating is just as much of a sin as smoking. (there, does that help?)
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It helps very much, Little Joe! I'm sure Paw is happy too!
And, I agree with your assessment about over eating........it's just that you don't hear that preached against very often!
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07-08-2008, 05:56 AM
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Re: Can A Person Be A Smoker & Still Be Saved
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Originally Posted by Pro31:28

We had a pastor that once said, Smoking won't send you to hell, it just makes you smell like you have been there"
After I posted this, I saw Micheal Phelps had quoted the same thing... Sorry  (guess great minds think alike)
What about fire-fighters? They intentionally run into buildings filling thier lungs with smoke, in order to save a human life, is that wrong? (I know this is a stupid question, but this post has gotten a little crazy!)
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Ha, wonder if it was the same pastor!?!?
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"Many people view their relationship with God like a "color by number" picture. It's easier to let someone else define the boundaries, tell them which blanks to fill in, and what color to use than it is for them to take a blank canvas and seek inspiration from the Source in order to paint their own masterpiece"
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07-08-2008, 09:20 AM
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Re: Can A Person Be A Smoker & Still Be Saved
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Originally Posted by AbundantGrace
Put more plainly, is it possible for a person who smokes/uses tobacco products to truly be a Christian? Is it possible for that person to be saved while still smoking/chewing/dipping? Why or why not?
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Does my avitar tell you anything about my opinion?
If you don't know the picture is Spurgeon with a cigar.
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07-08-2008, 09:23 AM
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Re: Can A Person Be A Smoker & Still Be Saved
They will feel at home in Hell since there is a smoking section there.
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07-08-2008, 09:27 AM
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Re: Can A Person Be A Smoker & Still Be Saved
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Originally Posted by Steve Epley
They will feel at home in Hell since there is a smoking section there. 
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Yes. And you will fit right in in Heaven, seeing as how you like to look down on so many people. From Heaven you will be able to look down on all the people in Hell who just didn't quite live up to the standard.  Heheheheheheheheeee!
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07-08-2008, 09:29 AM
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Re: Can A Person Be A Smoker & Still Be Saved
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They will feel at home in Hell since there is a smoking section there. 
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I think that section is right next to the food court in hell where the gluttons go.
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