Q. for all the AFF scholars. Did Samson have magic hair? I believe that his power/strength/anointing was connected to his Nazarite like vows one of which demanded that he not cut his hair. When he told his secret to Delilah and she cut his hair, he lost his strength; not becuase of the hair but because of his broken vows to God.
But why would God command him not to cut his hair in the first place? And later inspire Paul to write it is a "shame" for a man to have long hair? Your thoughts?
Sampsons power rested in the promise of God not in the vow.
God said he would make Sampson strong so long as he kept the vow.
Ferd wasn't the promise and the vow the samething? He could not make the promise with out the vow and no vow without the promise. Obedience is better than sacrifice, but to me it seems that both were obediences and sacrifices. Are you saying a promise and a vow are not the samething?
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Ferd wasn't the promise and the vow the samething? He could not make the promise with out the vow and no vow without the promise. Obedience is better than sacrifice, but to me it seems that both were obediences and sacrifices. Are you saying a promise and a vow are not the samething?
I dont think so. if it were so, anyone keeping this vow would have had Samsons strenght.
the power here rested in the promise God made. It was kept in the lifestyle Samson lived. But if Samson had just decided to take the Nazirite vow without God commanding it with a promise if followed, the Samson would have just been a long haired Hebrew.
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Q. for all the AFF scholars. Did Samson have magic hair? I believe that his power/strength/anointing was connected to his Nazarite like vows one of which demanded that he not cut his hair. When he told his secret to Delilah and she cut his hair, he lost his strength; not becuase of the hair but because of his broken vows to God.
But why would God command him not to cut his hair in the first place? And later inspire Paul to write it is a "shame" for a man to have long hair? Your thoughts?
I already addressed this somewhere else here. But as it was pointed out his strength was connected with his nazarite vow. There was no supernatural power embeded in his hair. He did not use his hair like a magic talisman or peep stone to summon angels or heal the sick either
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I dont think so. if it were so, anyone keeping this vow would have had Samsons strenght.
the power here rested in the promise God made. It was kept in the lifestyle Samson lived. But if Samson had just decided to take the Nazirite vow without God commanding it with a promise if followed, the Samson would have just been a long haired Hebrew.
But wouldn't my point still be valid? Because the result or the affects of the anointing for Samson was strength were the result or anointing for someone else might have been different. Samson following his vow and promise the result was amazing strength. Someone else following the vow and promise could have had a different affect on them, but it was from the same vow.
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But wouldn't my point still be valid? Because the result or the affects of the anointing for Samson was strength were the result or anointing for someone else might have been different. Samson following his vow and promise the result was amazing strength. Someone else following the vow and promise could have had a different affect on them, but it was from the same vow.
I'm not certain I understand what your point is?
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Let the words of my mouth, and the meditation of my heart, be acceptable in thy sight, O LORD, my strength, and my redeemer.
But why would God command him not to cut his hair in the first place? And later inspire Paul to write it is a "shame" for a man to have long hair? Your thoughts?
Because he was a Nazirite, which would be a special circumstance. Under the Nazirite vow (Numbers chapter 6), a person would not cut their hair at all, until the end of their vow. In Samson's case, he was a Nazirite from birth, and a Nazirite for life, thus his hair was never to be cut (Judges 13:5).
Thus, there's no contradiction between Nazirites like Samson having long hair, and what Paul said about long hair on men.
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But wouldn't my point still be valid? Because the result or the affects of the anointing for Samson was strength were the result or anointing for someone else might have been different. Samson following his vow and promise the result was amazing strength. Someone else following the vow and promise could have had a different affect on them, but it was from the same vow.
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I'm not certain I understand what your point is?
In other words the promise to have strength as long as Samson kept the vow was made exclusively to him. There is no promise actually in scripures of anyone receiving special powers for having the vow and actually as far as I know there were only two men in the bible that took this vow permamently as prescribed by God. Samson and Samuel I believe did
__________________ Let it be understood that Apostolic Friends Forum is an Apostolic Forum.
Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
Every sinner must repent of their sins.
That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
In other words the promise to have strength as long as Samson kept the vow was made exclusively to him. There is no promise actually in scripures of anyone receiving special powers for having the vow and actually as far as I know there were only two men in the bible that took this vow permamently as prescribed by God. Samson and Samuel I believe did
Got it!
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