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Old 07-09-2008, 10:37 AM
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Re: Can A Person Be A Smoker & Still Be Saved

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Because I think smoking is a sin?



Dude, you're warped.
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Are you calling the, "prince of preachers" a sinner?
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Old 07-09-2008, 10:46 AM
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Are you calling the, "prince of preachers" a sinner?
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Old 07-09-2008, 10:48 AM
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Re: Can A Person Be A Smoker & Still Be Saved

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LOL, okay then...the question to Spurgeon's comment "intense pain relieved, a weary brain soothed, and calm, refreshing sleep obtained by a cigar", does not the alcoholic and the cigarette addict feel exactly the same when taking that first hit off a cigarette or drink from the bottle after not having any for a time? Spurgeon is justifying his addiction by thanking God for the substance he is addicted to.

And if Spurgeon is truly not addicted to smoking tobacco should he consider his weaker brethren who will be emboldened by this giant of a Christian leader to do the same as him only without moderation?

And finally and most importantly does smoking defile the temple of the Holy Ghost? Do we destroy our body which is God's temple by smoking?
Mizpeh, there is no guarantee that someone who smokes will develop any sort of disease whatsoever. It increases the risk, but there's no guarantee that smoking, chewing, or dipping is going to give someone cancer. In fact, there is at least one form of tobacco use that has never been connected with cancer. It's the oldest known form of tobacco use, nasal snuff.
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Yes.
When we get to heaven I'm going to tell him you said that.
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When we get to heaven I'm going to tell him you said that.
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Are you a sinner?
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Old 07-09-2008, 10:52 AM
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Re: Can A Person Be A Smoker & Still Be Saved

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Brother,

Do You know any folk as big as the side of a house who eat like vacuum cleaners?

Do You believe they are saved?

Do You fellowship with them or preach against them?


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Just don't want this question to get lost from Bro Epley
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Okay.

Are you a sinner?
I wondered if that was your meaning in your response. Do I sin? Yes. Do I live a lifestyle of sin? I hope not.

I think because we have heard the sinner saved by grace thing so much we tend to believe it. To me a sinner is someone who is separated from God by a lifestyle of sin. A Christian who sins is not a sinner. But that is all in how we define it.
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We are all sinners, shaved by Grace.
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We are all sinners, shaved by Grace.
Will smoking cause you to be a sinner, not saved by grace.
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Will smoking cause you to be a sinner, not saved by grace.

Continuing in sin, with no intention of repentance, will lead to a loss of relationship with Jesus Christ.
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