Why I break the law - Page 9

Rico · #81 07-10-2008, 01:39 PM

How about taking the name of the Lord in vain? Is that still a sin? If so, why?

Baron1710 · #82 07-10-2008, 01:42 PM

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Hello! I agree with that! I did not say we are under the MC.
You miss the fact the MC revealed rightousness and truth to us. To do what is right! To do what is right to God and our fellow man and our surrounding does not change. Jesus said balance of the law hung on two commandments.
The break down of how to fullfill this is shown in the law. Not every law in the MC had to do with the two commandments by which all the law hanged.

For the sake of space I'm not going to repost your entire discourse but it did remind me of the Mosaic covenant and the way the Children of Israel wandered in the desert.

So are you saying that the only parts of the Mosaic Law that we have to obey are the ones that demonstrate love for neighbor and God?

Baron1710 · #83 07-10-2008, 01:44 PM

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Do you believe it's a sin to worship another God other than Jesus? If so, why?

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What about stealing? Is that still a sin? If so, why?

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How about taking the name of the Lord in vain? Is that still a sin? If so, why?

Rico would you have any problem supporting this from the NT?

LUKE2447 · #84 07-10-2008, 01:44 PM

Also Jesus walked according to the Written Law of Moses and proved his righteousnes thus a proper sacrifice for us. So if Jesus had to be right before God to be a proper sacrifice and we are to emulate him which is in summary fullfill

Mar 12:29 And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments is, Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord:
Mar 12:30 And thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind, and with all thy strength: this is the first commandment.
Mar 12:31 And the second is like, namely this, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. There is none other commandment greater than these.

Then why keep acting like the OT is a plague when it revealed truths of God. A light unto us? Messiah was the Torah/LAW/Word/Nature/Mind of God made known/revealed/manifested unto us. The reason he was able to meet the requirements of the law was because who can better fullfill the desire and chararcter of God unto his people than God himself in flesh?

DividedThigh · #85 07-10-2008, 01:45 PM

i believe you and i are sinners rico, but for his grace, dt

Ferd · #86 07-10-2008, 01:45 PM

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Do you believe it is a sin to worship another God, other than Jesus? If so, why?

I do because the NT says there is One Lord, One FAITH, One Baptism.

and Jesus said there is ONE door....anyone trying to inter thru some other way is a thief.

Once again, anything in the OT that we hold to MUST have an anchor in the NT.

Baron1710 · #87 07-10-2008, 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by LUKE2447

Also Jesus walked according to the Written Law of Moses and proved his righteousnes thus a proper sacrifice for us. So if Jesus had to be right before God to be a proper sacrifice and we are to emulate him which is in summary fullfill

Mar 12:29 And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments is, Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord:
Mar 12:30 And thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind, and with all thy strength: this is the first commandment.
Mar 12:31 And the second is like, namely this, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. There is none other commandment greater than these.

Then why keep acting like the OT is a plague when it revealed truths of God. A light unto us? Messiah was the Torah/LAW/Word/Nature/Mind of God made known/revealed/manifested unto us. The reason he was able to meet the requirements of the law was because who can better fullfill the desire and chararcter of God unto his people than God himself in flesh?

Jesus broke the Mosaic law.

DividedThigh · #88 07-10-2008, 01:46 PM

amen

LUKE2447 · #89 07-10-2008, 01:46 PM

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Rico would you have any problem supporting this from the NT?

Again you are missing the point. Paul already SAID that SIN was pointed to in the law. He also said the RIGHTEOUSNESS "to do what is right" was in the LAW. He doesn't have to recreate a list! All this is respect to

Mar 12:29 And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments is, Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord:
Mar 12:30 And thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind, and with all thy strength: this is the first commandment.
Mar 12:31 And the second is like, namely this, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. There is none other commandment greater than these.

and the other laws flowed from this basis!

Rico · #90 07-10-2008, 01:47 PM

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Rico would you have any problem supporting this from the NT?

Absolutely not. Doesn't change the fact that they're all part of God's righteousness contained in the law. Even if God hadn't of written those things down in the law, they'd still be a sin, because of God's righteousness. His law is still the law. I noticed you guys didn't answer RD's question on bestiality. Is it still a sin for a man to lie with a beast from the field? If so, why?