AFF apostolic or not? - Page 2

Sister Alvear · #11 07-11-2008, 08:05 PM

It is God that will judge dear one and GOD ALONE...
You remember God doeth not see like you or I do...He sees far beyond what our eyes can see...He weighs the spirits....scary isn´t it?

hometown guy · #12 07-11-2008, 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by dizzyde

#1. Why do you get the honors of deciding what being Apostolic is?

#2. I believe that Apostles actually would have called themselves Christians. Or in the language of their time, followers of Christ.

#3. Quoting you from above "nobodies except God is going to tell you what to do especially the pastor, if you’re a lady you think you can cut your hair, wear pants, makeup and jewelry. If you’re a man you let your wife rule the house ect…………..
Now the apostles taught against all of this," I would be interested in seeing the scripture text where the apostles taught this?

#4. Why do you only post when 1stCorinth2v4 is around?

No bad spirit, just honest points and questions.

#1. im sorry you tell me what it means.

#2. I was first told to call myself apolstolic from your dads church about 15 years ago.
#3. read the bible
#4. just by chance i guess.

TRFrance · #13 07-11-2008, 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by hometown guy

I have a question after reading all the threads on here lately. First I would like to say that I believe I am apostolic. And I believe this because I teach, preach, and believe like the apostles. Now my question to you is, if this is called Apostolic Friends Forum, what is apostolic about it. Most of you on here think it’s a free trip to heaven so live how yow want (as long as your not breaking a “thou shall not” straight from God), you can set wicked things before your eyes ( and yes I’m talking about Hollywood, Disney, ect )you can get baptized if you want to but you don’t have to, as long as you believe in God that all that matters, nobodies except God is going to tell you what to do especially the pastor, if you’re a lady you think you can cut your hair, wear pants, makeup and jewelry. If you’re a man you let your wife rule the house ect…………..
Now the apostles taught against all of this, so if you believe this can you still call your self an apostolic according to my belief of the definition of being apostolic (which is preaching, teaching and believing like the apostles. So once again what is so apostolic about AFF
I hope we can discuss this without anyone getting a bad spirit and we can all still be

Brother, please show us the scriptures where the apostles taught against pants.
And also please show us the scripture where they taught against makeup.
Thanks.

Sister Alvear · #14 07-11-2008, 08:12 PM

I believe the first believers were called: Christians...

Barb · #15 07-11-2008, 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Sister Alvear

I believe the first believers were called: Christians...

And they were called "the Church..."

Sister Alvear · #16 07-11-2008, 08:16 PM

thanks Barb....

Tim Rutledge · #17 07-11-2008, 08:21 PM

Brother Hometown, My thought. There is a scripture that says standfast and hold the traditions which you have been taught. Some of the people on this forum have not obeyed that scripture and others just never were taught the same traditions. The second worse enemy of Jesus, is traditions. Just bloom where your planted, draw the lines where your Pastor defines them.. then every man to his battle station. Your more dangerous when your right. Attitude is everything.

And Bro., No. This forum is not Apostolic.

pelathais · #18 07-11-2008, 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by hometown guy

I have a question after reading all the threads on here lately. First I would like to say that I believe I am apostolic. And I believe this because I teach, preach, and believe like the apostles. Now my question to you is, if this is called Apostolic Friends Forum, what is apostolic about it. Most of you on here think it’s a free trip to heaven so live how yow want (as long as your not breaking a “thou shall not” straight from God), you can set wicked things before your eyes ( and yes I’m talking about Hollywood, Disney, ect )you can get baptized if you want to but you don’t have to, as long as you believe in God that all that matters, nobodies except God is going to tell you what to do especially the pastor, if you’re a lady you think you can cut your hair, wear pants, makeup and jewelry. If you’re a man you let your wife rule the house ect…………..
Now the apostles taught against all of this, so if you believe this can you still call your self an apostolic according to my belief of the definition of being apostolic (which is preaching, teaching and believing like the apostles. So once again what is so apostolic about AFF
I hope we can discuss this without anyone getting a bad spirit and we can all still be

HTG, your viewpoint is common and the questions you appear to be trying to ask are routine. There was a sort of mass exodus of about a half dozen long time posters who contributed a great deal of verbage to AFF this past year. Since then (and really, leading up to their departure) there were many remonstrations over what it means to be "Apostolic."

First of all, it would be helpful for your understanding if you disabused yourself of the notion that "Most of you on here think it’s a free trip to heaven so live how yow want..."

I think most of us "on here" tremble to add any custom or tradition to the plain teachings of Scripture. Why don't you tremble as well?

Also, I would challenge your identification with the 1st Century apostles on this ground: You refuse to use the same Bible that they used. The New Testament almost exclusively quotes from the Septuagint. The only Bibles in general circulation today that follow this apostolic practice are the Roman Catholic Bibles like the Jerusalem Bible and the Rheims-Douay.

Since you want to be "apostolic" why don't you start with your Bible - get one that was used by the real Apostles.

And I have to honestly question your ability to discern good from evil. I watched Disney's The Lion King, for example, and saw nothing "evil" about it. I wonder how much "evil" would turn up with an intense scrutiny of your life?

The apostles taught nothing concerning "pants" on men or women. The apostles taught modesty with regard to jewelry - not the banning of sports watches and marriage bands. And with regard to "uncut hair"... your side has so far failed continually to make any sense out of the ambiguities of 1 Corinthians 11.

Rico · #19 07-11-2008, 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Tim Rutledge

And Bro., No. This forum is not Apostolic.

Here ya go, special delivery.

Praxeas · #20 07-11-2008, 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Tim Rutledge

Brother Hometown, My thought. There is a scripture that says standfast and hold the traditions which you have been taught. Some of the people on this forum have not obeyed that scripture and others just never were taught the same traditions. The second worse enemy of Jesus, is traditions. Just bloom where your planted, draw the lines where your Pastor defines them.. then every man to his battle station. Your more dangerous when your right. Attitude is everything.

And Bro., No. This forum is not Apostolic.

traditions of men WERE the enemy of Jesus indeed! He rebuked the Pharisees for their traditions.

When the bible says to hold fast or stand fastthe traditions you leave something out..

2Th 2:15Therefore, brethren, stand fast, and hold the traditions which ye have been taught, whether by word, or our epistle.

He is talking about the traditions passed on by the Apostles. Tradition here simply means transmission or precept. Nobody here would argue we should reject the precepts of the Apostles