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Old 07-11-2008, 08:38 PM
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I'll type more slowly so that you can understand me...

Your Bible's Old Testament is based upon the Jewish Masoretic text. The apostles who wrote the New Testament used the Septuagint almost exclusively in their OT quotes.

Why don't you use a Bible like the Rheims-Douay or the Jerusalem Bible which is translated from the Septuagint? That's what the apostles did. Yet you refuse to do so. Why?

How can you be "apostolic" if you've got a different Bible than the apostles?
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1Co 11:1
Be ye followers of me, even as I also am of Christ.

this was paul's answer to you
We are supposed to draw the lines where our pastor draws them? What if he draws them in a place other than where God draws them? Are we to follow that?

You are as funny as Timmy is! You can't be serious!

I have no problem following Paul, but if Paul drew the line outside of God's word, I would not follow him, plain and simple.
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He was the "pastor" of this church so as long as a pastor is following christ we should also follow him. i dont think paul thought he was the only one that man was allowed to follow.
Paul was an Apostle. He wrote the inspired word of God. He delivered to us the precepts of God. He was writting as an Apostle. He was not authoritzing pastors to act unilaterally on their own to come up with precepts NOT found in the word
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We are supposed to draw the lines where our pastor draws them? What if he draws them in a place other than where God draws them? Are we to follow that?

You are as funny as Timmy is! You can't be serious!

I have no problem following Paul, but if Paul drew the line outside of God's word, I would not follow him, plain and simple.
did God ever say anything that paul said? Paul puting lines as he was inspired by God. now if my pastor started preaching something and the princable was not in the word of God then yes i would leave if went against the word. im not saying to blindly follow a man.
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did God ever say anything that paul said? Paul puting lines as he was inspired by God. now if my pastor started preaching something and the princable was not in the word of God then yes i would leave if went against the word. im not saying to blindly follow a man.
Sure, but everyone here would agree with you so it has to make us wonder why bring it up?
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Paul was an Apostle. He wrote the inspired word of God. He delivered to us the precepts of God. He was writting as an Apostle. He was not authoritzing pastors to act unilaterally on their own to come up with precepts NOT found in the word


Your right but I’m stating things that if are not directly in the word the principle behind it is in the bible
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The Rescuers Down Under
Pocahontas
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Okay, I had to Google it. And in doing so I ended up with "evil" in front of my eyes.


There apparently really is a movie entitled:

I Killed My Lesbian Wife, Hung Her on a Meat Hook, and Now I Have a Three-Picture Deal at Disney

Though it's not a Disney movie. It's a short film made by Ben Affleck while he was in college.
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Your right but I’m stating things that if are not directly in the word the principle behind it is in the bible
Give me the "principle" on "pants."

It's been hot around here. I want to wear a toga. A toga is really more modest than "pants," but let's face it - a toga looks like a dress.

My daughter wants to go horseback riding - I want her to wear "pants" for the sake of modesty. I grew up riding horses with "apostolic" girls and I can describe their underwear to you. I want my daughter to be modest. Give me a "Bible principle" that will help me out here.
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Re: AFF apostolic or not?

Many are far from the teachings of 12 Jewish men who followed a Hebrew Messiah...

Hometown guy...I can take history and prove the first church danced jewish dances...how long has it been since you danced a jewish dance? If we REALLY want to do all the first church did before it became contaminated with the other nations maybe we should dance?
I am not telling anyone to do that...do not quote and say I teach this I am just saying history says they danced jewish dances...
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