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Old 07-13-2008, 08:56 PM
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Re: Nona Freeman died last Sunday? Collapsed? ...

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With us or Sis. Freeman.

Actually, pretty good on both accounts.
LOL! I know how Sister Freeman is doing. I believe she was in Pitsburg this weekend.... a week after dying! LOL! how weard is that to say?

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Old 07-13-2008, 09:01 PM
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I think the problem is there aren't enough miracles any more and folks have forgotten what Apostolic means.

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might want to check that again.... this happened one week ago today. DeRidder La. you can call the church if you like.

First Pentecostal Church DeRidder
Pastor Zale Lewis

I KNOW PERSONALLY the medical people who attended Sister Freeman.

I ate lunch today with my two sisters who were THERE. They both agreed on what happened... as told by others here.

I also know the GI speical forces guy who is a trained EMT who said "I have seen lots of dead people and she was dead."

Now, did they have a brain wave monitor on hand? well of course not. But they did have medical training and the nurses and EMT that attended her said she had no pulse and her pupils were fixed and dialated.
I know from extensive experience that without proper monitoring one cannot say conclusively that a person is dead in a short period of time. There are heart rhythms that cannot be picked up by the touch. Maybe her heart had slowed down and peripheral shutdown was evident. I'm seen many cases where the patient had no palpable heart rate and yet a monitor said that they did. Were they doing CPR?
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LOL! I know how Sister Freeman is doing. I believe she was in Pitsburg this weekend.... a week after dying! LOL! how weard is that to say?

wishing i could head to SE Texas next week!
I can't remember where she told me she was headed..(gettin' old, or just had some GREAT church and my brain is tired)

I wish you could come too. It's gonna be fun (at least most of it will...)

I'm ready for a break.
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I know from extensive experience that without proper monitoring one cannot say conclusively that a person is dead in a short period of time. There are heart rhythms that cannot be picked up by the touch. Maybe her heart had slowed down and peripheral shutdown was evident. I'm seen many cases where the patient had no palpable heart rate and yet a monitor said that they did. Were they doing CPR?
I'm not sure on that, I believe that they did, but don't quote me on that.
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I know from extensive experience that without proper monitoring one cannot say conclusively that a person is dead in a short period of time. There are heart rhythms that cannot be picked up by the touch. Maybe her heart had slowed down and peripheral shutdown was evident. I'm seen many cases where the patient had no palpable heart rate and yet a monitor said that they did. Were they doing CPR?
The thought of doing CPR on a 91 y/o is there will be broken bones and lots of bruising.

Maybe she had PEA?

http://www.emedicine.com/med/topic2963.htm
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The thought of doing CPR on a 91 y/o is there will be broken bones and lots of bruising.

Maybe she had PEA?

http://www.emedicine.com/med/topic2963.htm
Could have. But my concern is that to pronounce someone dead one must have more info and time.
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Could have. But my concern is that to pronounce someone dead one must have more info and time.
Would no breath count?
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Would no breath count?
No. Not for a while. I've patients go minutes with any obvious breaths.
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No. Not for a while. I've patients go minutes with any obvious breaths.
Are you a doctor RD?
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