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Old 07-13-2008, 10:41 PM
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Old 07-13-2008, 10:43 PM
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I'm not drawing any judgment on what God can or did do. Just want accuracy in reporting.
Right. There is no doubt that a miracle took place. For someone her age to collapse and then finish preaching while laying on the floor, well, it's truly a miracle, whether she died or not!!!
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Old 07-13-2008, 10:50 PM
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If I live to be 93 it would be a miracle!
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Old 07-13-2008, 10:53 PM
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Right. There is no doubt that a miracle took place. For someone her age to collapse and then finish preaching while laying on the floor, well, it's truly a miracle, whether she died or not!!!
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Old 07-13-2008, 11:00 PM
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Right. There is no doubt that a miracle took place. For someone her age to collapse and then finish preaching while laying on the floor, well, it's truly a miracle, whether she died or not!!!
That is so true H1.
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Old 07-13-2008, 11:12 PM
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Wonder if she reads on AFF?
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Old 07-14-2008, 12:42 AM
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Re: Nona Freeman died last Sunday? Collapsed? ...

I like faith so I will say it was a miracle. Surely if she had not been "raised up" she would have stayed on the floor till stench came.
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Old 07-14-2008, 08:24 AM
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Re: Nona Freeman died last Sunday? Collapsed? ...

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Medically one cannot say for sure either way. So let's just be honest.
RD, I will conceed to you that no one can say for sure if she were truely dead or not. They didnt have any monitoring equipment thus medically speaking this is a gray area for sure.

I know those that were there that day. I know they arent given to exageration and wihle we cannot say for certain, the people there that attended her, are pretty confident in what they saw.

I can live with God raised her up. dont need much more than that. She had no heart rate, here eyes were fixed and dialated, and now they arent.

its all good.
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Old 07-14-2008, 08:27 AM
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Re: Nona Freeman died last Sunday? Collapsed? ...

Any way you look at it, God did something for her that day, and it's worthy of mention. I agree with RD that it's better to know for sure someone is dead before ya go claiming God raised that person up from the dead.
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Old 07-14-2008, 08:44 AM
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Any way you look at it, God did something for her that day, and it's worthy of mention. I agree with RD that it's better to know for sure someone is dead before ya go claiming God raised that person up from the dead.
And there is the problem Rico. Those that attended her all agree that (in there words) she was dead.

Ive already said this, but one guy there is a Special Forces guy who is also a trained EMT. He said "I've seen lots of dead people and she was dead".

Now we can agree that we dont have any medical proof. But trying to convince some folk that they didnt see what they saw is a bit more complicated.
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