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View Poll Results: Do you believe in the old time "shouting"??
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YES, BRING IT ON!!!!
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NO, ITS OUT OF ORDER!!!!
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I AM NOT SURE.
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07-16-2008, 06:29 PM
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Re: Do you believe in Pentecostal Shouting?
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Originally Posted by Rico
U mean David did the "helicopter" thing? KEWL!! I didn't know that!
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All Jewish dancing is known commonly as a circle dance.. yes whirling,, very controlled, very common,, very NON PENTECOSTAL
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07-16-2008, 06:30 PM
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Shaking the dust off my shoes.
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Re: Do you believe in Pentecostal Shouting?
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Originally Posted by Dr. Vaughn
WYOPASTOR..... his wife was not upset because he was dancing... dancing was a common and still is a common custom among Jewish people... she was upset because he ABASED HIMSELF and shed his ROYAL ROBES and made himself common among the people
II Sam 6:20 puts it all in perspective.. the Pentecostals would be well served to read these verses before trying to use something that DID NOT HAPPEN to justify the emotionalism of Pentecost...
NOW BROTHER, after reading the following verse.. you tell me .... was she mad because he danced or because he removed his ROYAL ROBES?
II SAM 6:20 - Then David returned to bless his household. And Michal the daughter of Saul came out to meet David, and said, How glorious was the king of Israel to day, who uncovered himself to day in the eyes of the handmaids of his servants, as one of the vain fellows shamelessly uncovereth himself!
You simply hear the voice of a JEALOUS WIFE because the handmaids saw David in basically his common garments...... she was not upset because he was dancing before the Lord but rather because he disrobed himself... all the way down to his linen ephod..... rather than portraying himself in his royal garments...
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She got upset because he was basically in his underwear. That's common knowledge, isn't it?
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07-16-2008, 06:31 PM
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Re: Do you believe in Pentecostal Shouting?
I think the following question would have been a more interesting thread title...
Does the NT support shouting in church?
Does the NT give us any examples of Pentecostal Shouting?
Does the NT give more instruction for church order or for pandemonium?
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07-16-2008, 06:31 PM
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Re: Do you believe in Pentecostal Shouting?
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Originally Posted by Dr. Vaughn
All Jewish dancing is known commonly as a circle dance.. yes whirling,, very controlled, very common,, very NON PENTECOSTAL
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I'm not Jewish, so I don't care how they dance. I am excited, however, to find out that David was doing a whirling kind of dance. That's what used to happen to me back in my shoutin all over church days.
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07-16-2008, 06:32 PM
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Re: Do you believe in Pentecostal Shouting?
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Originally Posted by Rico
She got upset because he was basically in his underwear. That's common knowledge, isn't it?
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Yes,,, but the Pentecostals try to make it seem that she was upset because he was SHOUTING...... actually WYO Pastor made reference to that same understanding
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07-16-2008, 06:33 PM
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Re: Do you believe in Pentecostal Shouting?
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Originally Posted by tstew
I ought to post some shouting vids from our church. That would probably let you know where I stand on the issue. 
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Go 'head on, Bro! I like them kind of services.
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07-16-2008, 06:33 PM
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Re: Do you believe in Pentecostal Shouting?
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Originally Posted by Rico
I'm not Jewish, so I don't care how they dance. I am excited, however, to find out that David was doing a whirling kind of dance. That's what used to happen to me back in my shoutin all over church days.
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I promise you RICO... go with me to JErusalem and you will not see one instance of whirling that reminds you of your type of whirling..... their dance is very controlled, very choreographed and very NON PENTECOSTAL and this is the type of dancing that we find David doing...... not Pentecostal Shouting
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07-16-2008, 06:33 PM
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Shaking the dust off my shoes.
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Re: Do you believe in Pentecostal Shouting?
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Originally Posted by Dr. Vaughn
Yes,,, but the Pentecostals try to make it seem that she was upset because he was SHOUTING...... actually WYO Pastor made reference to that same understanding
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Never heard anyone preach it any other way other than her being upset because he was in his undies.
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07-16-2008, 06:34 PM
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Shaking the dust off my shoes.
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Re: Do you believe in Pentecostal Shouting?
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Originally Posted by Dr. Vaughn
I promise you RICO... go with me to JErusalem and you will not see one instance of whirling that reminds you of your type of whirling..... their dance is very controlled, very choreographed and very NON PENTECOSTAL and this is the type of dancing that we find David doing...... not Pentecostal Shouting
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Why would I want to let people who have rejected Christ determine for me how I should dance before the Lord?
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07-16-2008, 06:36 PM
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Re: Do you believe in Pentecostal Shouting?
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Originally Posted by Rico
Never heard anyone preach it any other way other than her being upset because he was in his undies.
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Actually he was not in his Undies.. he was in a Linen Ephod which was religious robes rather than royal robes....... the linen ephod would have been worn under his royal garments and then his underclothes under the linen ephod.. so he was not in his Undies.. he was not dancing so uncontrollably that he was in his underwear... he ABASED himself to the common man and was seen in an Ephod in public rather than his Royal Robes....
I will never understand how the Pentecostals can make any more out of that experience then what actually happened
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