Do you believe in Pentecostal Shouting? - Page 23

BrotherEastman · #**221** 07-19-2008, 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by RandyWayne

This is one of those polls where I don't agree with the premise of the question. I answered "No, it's out of order" simply because I don't believe in it as a matter of doctrine, meaning "One must do this".
Do I believe it is always out of order? Of course not, but neither do I believe it is something someone must do or if you don't do it regularly, your less spiritual than the person who wears out their voice box every service.

My view on what SOME "Pentecostal Shouting" looks like (in keeping with a Star Trek theme)

Excellent point, and I agree that shouting can at times be out of order. I just can't find scripture that PROHIBITS shouting, and niether can Mr. Vaughn.

RandyWayne · #**222** 07-19-2008, 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by BrotherEastman

Excellent point, and I agree that shouting can at times be out of order. I just can't find scripture that PROHIBITS shouting, and niether can Mr. Vaughn.

I used the word "believe" a lot because that is really all I have on this issue -an opinion.

#**223** 07-19-2008, 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by BrotherEastman

Wrong again, I actually gave a scripture, you didn't, when you do I will show how that you have taken the scripture out of context Mr. Vaughn. I think it is pretty sad that I found the scripture that you allude to, but you yourself didn't give it. Besides you alluding to a scripture doesn't mean that you actually gave it.

Your joking right... when eludes to a scripture.. he is GIVING SCRIPTURE

Pauls in teaching an out of control church,, explains to them that its time to calm down.., its time to get in order.... lets a visitor would think they had lost their minds,, they way they were acting

#**224** 07-19-2008, 09:28 AM

Are any of you guys gonna deal with the whole "not drunk as ye suppose" deception?

Rico · #**225** 07-19-2008, 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Dr. Vaughn

Yes, yield to God.. so he can Spin you like a top... run you like a rag doll.... throw you in the floor.. give you convulsions.... make you stomp your shoes off.....

Funny God never did any of these things in his WORD.. but hey they have an experience... so it doesn't matter what the WORD says

This is bordering on blasphemy. You've all but come out and said you think these people are under the control of a devil.

Rico · #**226** 07-19-2008, 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Dr. Vaughn

Rejoicing in the Lord is wonderful,, I do it every service.....

Jerking uncontrollably... screaming wildley.. .shouting with no control,,,,, are not example of Rejoicing.. their examples of "being overtaken"

Being overtaken by the Holy Ghost is now evil?

#**227** 07-19-2008, 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Rico

This is bordering on blasphemy. You've all but come out and said you think these people are under the control of a devil.

No No No.,,,,, there is a huge difference in the DEVIL and FLESh.... I suppose the latter is what I'm referring to

#**228** 07-19-2008, 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Rico

Being overtaken by the Holy Ghost is now evil?

Not if you can show me one person in the scriptures that it ever happened to....

Rico · #**229** 07-19-2008, 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Dr. Vaughn

Not if you can show me one person in the scriptures that it ever happened to....

Vaughn, I've experienced this kind of shouting many times, and I can promise you it wasn't my flesh. I've had the Spirit come over me in such a way that I could not control my movements. You can not make an argument out of silence. Going that route NEVER works.

#**230** 07-19-2008, 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Rico

Vaughn, I've experienced this kind of shouting many times, and I can promise you it wasn't my flesh. I've had the Spirit come over me in such a way that I could not control my movements. You can not make an argument out of silence. Going that route NEVER works.

Your daugher (if you have one) comes to you... Dad something comes over me when I am with him.... I have no control of myself Dad.... its a feeling I can't explain... he makes me FEEL so happy...... and there you sit with the TRUTH about this guy that she has all these personal experiences with.... you cant deny she FEELS ALL THIS.. and yet its wrong and he's wrong for her....

No matter her experiences.... you have truth and God desires us to worship him not only in Spirit but in TRUTH...... I concur that the Holy Spirit takes over NO ONE,,,,, he does not behave himself unseeminly.. He's a gentleman... what gentleman would send women jerking and losing control of their facilities in front of men... so sorry RICO..... I have never seen one example of it in scripture... what do we go by? THE NT GUIDE or peoples personal experiences?