Do you believe in Pentecostal Shouting?

[theoldpaths]

This kinda reminds of something else that I and others have experienced - the only way that I can explain it is holy laughter - where you just laugh and laugh and laugh in the Spirit.

Has anyone ever experienced this before, or is it just me?

There you go RICO - Holy Laughter... those people laughing in the floor for hours... barking like dogs some of them.. they would rebuke me as well for blaspheming the Holy Ghost because they have had these personal experiences that supersede the scriptures......and yet I would love to see your response to their out of control madness

[theoldpaths]

My personal experience is that if the Lord wants to bless me in a special way, then that is His prerogative.

Joy unspeakable and full of glory.

In His presence there is fullness of joy and at His right hand there are pleasures for evermore.

I wonder how the 120 acted to make the observers believe that they were drunk?

When people in the world get drunk, they behave in different ways - some want to fight, some want to cry, some want to laugh, some lose all inhibitions, etc.

Its interesting that the baptism of the Holy Ghost has been referred to in God's word as being filled with new wine.

[Rico]

Originally Posted by Dr. Vaughn

Your daugher (if you have one) comes to you... Dad something comes over me when I am with him.... I have no control of myself Dad.... its a feeling I can't explain... he makes me FEEL so happy...... and there you sit with the TRUTH about this guy that she has all these personal experiences with.... you cant deny she FEELS ALL THIS.. and yet its wrong and he's wrong for her....

No matter her experiences.... you have truth and God desires us to worship him not only in Spirit but in TRUTH...... I concur that the Holy Spirit takes over NO ONE,,,,, he does not behave himself unseeminly.. He's a gentleman... what gentleman would send women jerking and losing control of their facilities in front of men... so sorry RICO..... I have never seen one example of it in scripture... what do we go by? THE NT GUIDE or peoples personal experiences?

Now you're comparing the Holy Ghost to lust. What a disgusting and vile comparison. Vaughn, you've lost your mind. I'm done discussing this with you.

[theoldpaths]

Originally Posted by Dr. Vaughn

There you go RICO - Holy Laughter... those people laughing in the floor for hours... barking like dogs some of them.. they would rebuke me as well for blaspheming the Holy Ghost because they have had these personal experiences that supersede the scriptures......and yet I would love to see your response to their out of control madness

Sorry, but i've never experienced anyone in an apostolic church barking like a dog. I believe you are referring to a charismatic church in Canada that DOES NOT HAVE TRUTH. Therefore, just because someone who has truth worships in a way that one has never seen before, doesn't mean they should be lumped into the same category as Charismatics who do NOT have truth, but behave like animals.

I've read that at the 3+ year revival at Asuza street, there were testamonies of hearing angels sing.

My personal opinion is that where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty. One is free to worship any way they want to.

David danced with all his might before the Lord, but someone religious who saw it despised him in her heart. Sometimes religious folks don't like how some others worship God.

Originally Posted by theoldpaths

My personal experience is that if the Lord wants to bless me in a special way, then that is His prerogative.

Joy unspeakable and full of glory.

In His presence there is fullness of joy and at His right hand there are pleasures for evermore.

I wonder how the 120 acted to make the observers believe that they were drunk?

When people in the world get drunk, they behave in different ways - some want to fight, some want to cry, some want to laugh, some lose all inhibitions, etc.

Its interesting that the baptism of the Holy Ghost has been referred to in God's word as being filled with new wine.

Weve dealt with the whole "Drunk" thing a million times... had NOTHING to do with how they were acting or their worship.. nothing had all.. only had to do with their ability to speak in foreign languages

Originally Posted by theoldpaths

Sorry, but i've never experienced anyone in an apostolic church barking like a dog. I believe you are referring to a charismatic church in Canada that DOES NOT HAVE TRUTH. Therefore, just because someone who has truth worships in a way that one has never seen before, doesn't mean they should be lumped into the same category as Charismatics who do NOT have truth, but behave like animals.

I've read that at the 3+ year revival at Asuza street, there were testamonies of hearing angels sing.

My personal opinion is that where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty. One is free to worship any way they want to.

David danced with all his might before the Lord, but someone religious who saw it despised him in her heart. Sometimes religious folks don't like how some others worship God.

Oh you havn't.. trust me I grew up in them and it gets worse.. how about jumping on each others backs and running around the church.. oh yes it gets worse.,. how about precious young ladies convulsing in the floor like an eplileptic... oh it gets worse how about head banging...... trust me barking is the least threatening of them all.... and its all works of the flesh

[theoldpaths]

I wonder if seeing someone speak in a foreign language would cause an observer to believe he was drunk? I've seen others speak in a language that was foreign to me, but I didn't think they were drunk.

Makes one wonder doesn't it?

[theoldpaths]

Originally Posted by Dr. Vaughn

Oh you havn't.. trust me I grew up in them and it gets worse.. how about jumping on each others backs and running around the church.. oh yes it gets worse.,. how about precious young ladies convulsing in the floor like an eplileptic... oh it gets worse how about head banging...... trust me barking is the least threatening of them all.... and its all works of the flesh

Are you apostolic?

Originally Posted by theoldpaths

I wonder if seeing someone speak in a foreign language would cause an observer to believe he was drunk? I've seen others speak in a language that was foreign to me, but I didn't think they were drunk.

Makes one wonder doesn't it?

So I suppose you have never heard someone say after seeing someone do an amazing feat.,,, "Dude, what kind of drugs are they on"

Read the whole story in cotext and heres my challenge show me ONE REFERENCE where they were talking about these peoples worship... you know what never mind.. Ill do it for you

CONTEXT a beautiful thing
Acts 2:6 - Now when this was noised abroad, the multitude came together, and were confounded, because that every man heard them speak in his own language.

Why were they confounded or confused?

# 1 Because they saw people shouting all over the place.....
# 2 Because they saw people running and screaming
# 3 Because common people had broken the language barrier

BINGO #3

Now, moving right along

Acts 2:7 - And they were all amazed and marvelled, saying one to another, Behold, are not all these which speak Galilaeans?

Why were the amazed and bewlidered and counfounded?

# 1 - The heard people laughing in the Spirit all over the place
# 2 - They saw folks leaping for joy
# 3 - Because common folks broke the language barrier

BINGO #3

Moving right along

OK HERES THE QUESTION

Acts 2:8 -And how hear we every man in our own tongue, wherein we were born?

So what is the subject of the conversation or the question they are asking?

# 1 - Why are these people so happy
# 2 - Why are these folks dancing and shouting all over the place
# 3 - How do common folks speak in our languages

BINGO - #3

CONTEXT BREAK -- So far what is the subject at hand? TONGUES...... do you see any reference to Praise or Worship?

Great, moving right along

We skip verse 9,10 & 11 because it is just listing all the languages they heard them speaking in

So we pick up at verse 12 to find the CONTEXT,., whether it be worship and shouting or whether it be something else..... the PENTECOSTALS desperatly need for it to be worship and shouting

Acts 2:12 - And they were all amazed, and were in doubt, saying one to another, What meaneth this?

Question- What were they amazed at?

# 1 - Peoples ability to shout and not get hurt?
# 2 - Peoples ability to dance uncontrollably
# 3 - Peoples ability to speak in foreign languages

BINGo # 3 - They are wanting to know all about this ability to break the language barrier and here they are trying to figure out where this new ability has come from.. they marvelled, they were amazed

and with this context in mind... we come to the next scripture

Acts 2:13 - Others mocking said, These men are full of new wine.

WHY DID THEY ACCUSE THEM OF DRINKING NEW WINE?

With all of the above scriptures taken in context please answer the following questions

#1 - because they saw them acting drunk
#2 - because they saw them shouting
#3 - because they heard them break the language barrier

BINGO # 3 --- had NOTHING TO DO WITH Pentecostal emotionalism

Acts 2:15 - For these are not drunken, as ye suppose

No sir,,, they didn't get this ability from a new wine... they got this ability from on high..... as prophesied by Joel... God said he would speak to his people with stammering lips and foreign lanagues.. and this is what you are seeing


So help me OLDPATHS... did you see a PENTECOSTAL service happening anywhere in the study of context?