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View Poll Results: Do you believe in the old time "shouting"??
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YES, BRING IT ON!!!!
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NO, ITS OUT OF ORDER!!!!
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I AM NOT SURE.
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07-20-2008, 04:23 PM
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uncharismatic conservative maverick
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Re: Do you believe in Pentecostal Shouting?
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Originally Posted by Dr. Vaughn
Some folks would say "or 2 minutes of Pentecostal Doctrine"
You see Elder, to each is own
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Problem is, you're not actually speaking Pentecostal doctrine.
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07-20-2008, 04:23 PM
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Re: Do you believe in Pentecostal Shouting?
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Originally Posted by Michael Phelps
DV, those are your words, not mine.
I refuse to even discuss this with you any further, because you constantly misquote me, and tend toward your fatalistic viewpoint.
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How am I misquoting you?/ You said SHOUTING and then tried to use a verse thats referring to VERBAL praise... Shouting in Pentecostal churches is PHYSICAL ESTATIC MOVEMENT under some influence that causes one to lose control of their body.. is it not?
If so,, please describe shouting to us
and then provide scriptural support with a double wittness of scripture
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07-20-2008, 04:24 PM
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Re: Do you believe in Pentecostal Shouting?
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Originally Posted by BrotherEastman
Problem is, you're not actually speaking Pentecostal doctrine.
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Dear bro,, you missed the whole point
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07-20-2008, 04:24 PM
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Re: Do you believe in Pentecostal Shouting?
My only other comment on this issue -not directed to anyone in particular, is the issue I had growing up in the church where dancing was forbidden (be it ballroom or square dance in the high school gym) and yet so many ladies in church looked no different than the Haitian voodoo dancer (as seen on National Geographic) the way they danced...... Just to play devils advocate, isn't appearance everything? Isn't this the reason UC's put down "rock music" -because of its similarities to music used in various rituals around the globe?
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07-20-2008, 04:25 PM
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uncharismatic conservative maverick
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Re: Do you believe in Pentecostal Shouting?
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Originally Posted by Dr. Vaughn
Shout with a loud voice all you want.. its scriptural of course..... but dont ever have a fit.. where your out of control of your own Body and blame such fleshim on the gentleman, the Holy Spirit
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Again, I must ask the question; When one is yeilded to the Holy Ghost are they out of control? I think not.
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07-20-2008, 04:26 PM
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uncharismatic conservative maverick
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Re: Do you believe in Pentecostal Shouting?
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Originally Posted by rgcraig
Dr., I belive that would be aisle running.
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You've noticed the doc misspellings as well?
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07-20-2008, 04:27 PM
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Re: Do you believe in Pentecostal Shouting?
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Originally Posted by RandyWayne
My only other comment on this issue -not directed to anyone in particular, is the issue I had growing up in the church where dancing was forbidden (be it ballroom or square dance in the high school gym) and yet so many ladies in church looked no different that Haitian voodoo dancer as seen on National Geographic the way they danced...... Just to play devils advocate, isn't appearance everything? Isn't this the reason UC's put down "rock music" -because of its similarities to music used in various rituals around the globe?
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I say PREACH NOW
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07-20-2008, 04:29 PM
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Re: Do you believe in Pentecostal Shouting?
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Originally Posted by BrotherEastman
Again, I must ask the question; When one is yeilded to the Holy Ghost are they out of control? I think not.
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Is that what it is brother?
Tell you what brother.. explain to the board why the Holy Spirit,, a gentleman,, doesnt behave himseld unseemly would throw a godly young lady into a frenzy, her losing all composure and femininity...
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07-20-2008, 04:35 PM
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Re: Do you believe in Pentecostal Shouting?
Note to reader: According to the doc, we should not shout in church because we are out of order according to what he believes Paul has said to the Corinthian church in his second letter to them; however, if that is the case, then ALL Christianity needs to take another look on how we go to church because early Christianity did not go to a church building. And because these church buildings were not mentioned anywhere in the NT, we are all going to hell in a hand basket. LOL! Doc Vaughn, a church building is mentioned just as many times as shouting in the NT: Should we stop going to a church building for services?
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07-20-2008, 04:37 PM
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Rebel with a cause.
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Re: Do you believe in Pentecostal Shouting?
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Originally Posted by Dr. Vaughn
How am I misquoting you?/ You said SHOUTING and then tried to use a verse thats referring to VERBAL praise... Shouting in Pentecostal churches is PHYSICAL ESTATIC MOVEMENT under some influence that causes one to lose control of their body.. is it not?
If so,, please describe shouting to us
and then provide scriptural support with a double wittness of scripture
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Sorry, DV, not biting.
YOU put the words humpjumping, bucksnorting and rolling in the floor into my mouth, those weren't my words.
I do NOT endorse people acting out of order, but I DO endorse people worshipping with voices lifted in praise, clapping of hands, leaping, and expressing the deep joy that they feel in their spirits.
If memory serves, that's how the man who was healed at the Temple Gate entered the temple, so there's your NT backing.
Now, give me some scripture that forbids what I just said.
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