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StMark · #**121** 07-22-2008, 02:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea

I speak of the writings he uses to support his holy hair doctrine ... since the Bible does not support it ... nor is there doctrinal witness to his interpretation of 1 Cor 11:10. Spells and witches waving their hair in the wind seem to be the only documented supports for this teaching.

Of course anecdotal supports are used also.

God uses who he pleases ... including Todd Bentley.

O come on Dan not this agian! please

I don't know of one person that agrees with this holy magic
hair stuff so give it a rest

live4him · #**122** 07-22-2008, 02:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea

I speak of the writings he uses to support his holy hair doctrine ... since the Bible does not support it ... nor is there doctrinal witness to his interpretation of 1 Cor 11:10. Spells and witches waving their hair in the wind seem to be the only supports for this teaching.

God uses who he pleases ... including Todd Bentley.

well i do beleive in not SHORNING the hair, the Bible says not to Shorn the hair, that means to cut -so we do not cut, and LS never said Holy Hair, where did you get him saying Magic hair doctrine- i heard trhe message

Rev · #**123** 07-22-2008, 02:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea

I speak of the writings he uses to support his holy hair doctrine ... since the Bible does not support it ... nor is there doctrinal witness to his interpretation of 1 Cor 11:10. Spells and witches waving their hair in the wind seem to be the only documented supports for this teaching.

Of course anecdotal supports are used also.

God uses who he pleases ... including Todd Bentley.

I'll bring up one of my old threads if I can find it.

SDG · #**124** 07-22-2008, 02:04 AM

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Originally Posted by live4him

well i do beleive in not SHORNING the hair, the Bible says not to Shorn the hair, that means to cut -so we do not cut, and LS never said Holy Hair, where did you get him saying Magic hair doctrine- i heard trhe message

and commented somewhere else that you enjoyed it ...

It's extrabiblical teaching ... and is NOT TRUTH ... especially when delving into the occult to prove it....

Shorning means to shorn.

Mark ... Exhibit A.

SDG · #**125** 07-22-2008, 02:07 AM

The following is an excerpt of 1996 transcription of a Stoneking message that echoes the 2008 recycling of this doctrine:

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Then the Bible goes on to say, "For this cause, ought the women to have power on head because of the angels." That is a fascinating and intriguing study. "For this cause, ought..." "Ought" in the Greek means to "owe or be indebted". "For this cause, ought the women to have power." The word "power" means, "authority, ability, authority, rule". "...on her head because of the angels." The word "because" is translated to mean, "through, by or with". So, if you put it together, what I Cor II:10 is saying, "For this cause ought the women to have power on her head because of the angels." Therefore, the women is indebted or owes her authority on her head with the angels.

Power. The original meaning is the "ability to perform and act, the right, the authority". Now, get this, "and the permission conferred upon her by a higher court".

"For this cause, the women is owing or indebted to the inward power, which is conferred upon her by a higher court with and by the angels."

The word, "power" comes from the Greek word, I think, "esousa". It means "as a divinely given authority act" Esousa implies, "freedom for the whole community".

I have always known in the Spirit, that in our churches and in our homes, where our women did not cut their hair that there was some kind of angelic power and protection that was there continuously, but I didn't know until this year, until I went to the Greek and dug it out. I didn't know how really accurate I was. I've always felt it in the Spirit, but now I can prove it Biblically, Biblically, that in churches where our women do not cut their hair. It's not the long and short of it, ladies. It is "uncut". Don't tell me you have long hair and then keep trimming the ends so that it doesn't get any longer than where it is now. That's not the issue. The issue is not long or short. The issue is "uncut" because in some cultures women's hair, it does not grow long. So, it's not long or short. That's not the issue. The issue is "uncut".

I have known and now can prove it, spiritually from the Bible, that in our churches, in our homes, where our women, our ladies do not cut their hair there is a kind of angelic protection that flows out from them for the whole Christian community.

Powerful! Powerful!

If a women wants to be free, say, "free", she lets her hair grow. If she wants to be bound, she does not let her hair grow, but if she allows her hair to grow long, uncut, in compliance with God's relationship to man, then the church community has a freedom in the Spirit which does not exist without her compliance. I've watched this year. I know some men that are powerful in the Spirit. Powerfully used by God. But, I've watched a couple of them, even this year, they came up against a problem and they could not find an answer to. They couldn't come to any kind of an answer, but the wife, who is in the background, usually, they had never cut their hair. One day he walked in just twisting his hands, one of them in particular, and she came to him and she said, "This is the answer here." And she mapped out an answer that was so perfect, he staggered at the wisdom in it. Do you know why she got a hold of that and he didn't? Because ladies, among us, who do not cut their hair are entangled with angels and the wisdom and power of angels that men are not connected to and they cannot be connected to it.

Only eternity will reveal how many times in our homes and in our churches, where our women have not cut their hair, only eternity will reveal how many times an angel of the Lord has stepped out and pulled a child back from oncoming traffic. How many times your husband, on the way to work, suddenly and angel stepped between him and an oncoming car. Only eternity will reveal that.

No bible offered .... none ... other than a man musing on 1 Cor 11:10.

SDG · #**126** 07-22-2008, 02:08 AM

Angelic protection flows out of woman to the whole Church community ...

The bible teaches this?

It does not.

Praxeas · #**127** 07-22-2008, 02:09 AM

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Originally Posted by live4him

well i do beleive in not SHORNING the hair, the Bible says not to Shorn the hair, that means to cut -so we do not cut, and LS never said Holy Hair, where did you get him saying Magic hair doctrine- i heard trhe message

The "Magic Hair" doctrine is not simply teaching "not cut" it teaches a woman has special "power with angels" and that in fact there is supernatural power in her hair as exhibited by those that believe they can lay their hair on sick persons and pray for them or let their hair down and summon angels

live4him · #**128** 07-22-2008, 02:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea

and commented somewhere else that you enjoyed it ...

It's extrabiblical teaching ... and is NOT TRUTH ... especially when delving into the occult to prove it....

Shorning means to shorn.

Mark ... Exhibit A.

you tell me what shorn means than since you have a different dictionary than me, because mine says to shear and to cut, second of all we are not in an occult, it is not extrabiblical teaching, you need a good revelation of the Bible, maybe if ya read more of the Bible instead of other things you might find it in there , but i could tell ya where it says not to shorn, but i will let you look it up yourself, it will be good reading for ya

StMark · #**129** 07-22-2008, 02:10 AM

Now if i was to start in on Todd bentley I'd be gettin' a
tongue lashing 'bout right now !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

SDG · #**130** 07-22-2008, 02:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Praxeas

The "Magic Hair" doctrine is not simply teaching "not cut" it teaches a woman has special "power with angels" and that in fact there is supernatural power in her hair as exhibited by those that believe they can lay their hair on sick persons and pray for them or let their hair down and summon angels

Kinda like this ...

The UPCI's official website, last summer, published a photo of a Alabama district women's service in which women are seen praying over a basket of petition with their hair.

This is the picture and caption posted.
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This picture was taken at the Alabama's Ladies retreat. Sis Patty Twyman took down her hair to summon the power of the angels over the prayer requests. Many prayers were answered.