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Old 07-26-2008, 09:28 PM
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StMatthew, your interpretation of the Bible is not necessarily the right one. Remember, our modern Oneness message was silenced for almost 1600 years. Now, are we willing to say that God did not have a witness during that time?

BTW, thank you for being cordial with me, and engaging intellectually as a schaolar and a good man. I really appreciate that.


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Old 07-26-2008, 09:01 PM
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It just is no longer worth the effort. Honestly, I think if it came down to it this would be the answer that most Cons that left would give you all. It just ain't worth the fight to defend apostolic doctrine on a forum that is for apostolics.
Be not weary in well doing, Matt. Don't put down your sword. Take a break, get some R + R then come back into the fray of defending the faith that was once delivered to the saints.
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Old 07-26-2008, 09:03 PM
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Be not weary in well doing, Matt. Don't put down your sword. Take a break, get some R + R then come back into the fray of defending the faith that was once delivered to the saints.
He just needs to drink more caffine!
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"It was not until long after, when former Holiness preachers had become part of us, that strict plainness of dress began to be taught.

"Although Entire Sanctification was preached at the beginning of the Movement, it was from a Wesleyan viewpoint, and had in it very little of the later Holiness Movement characteristics. Nothing was ever said about apparel, for everyone was so taken up with the Lord that mode of dress seemingly never occurred to any of us."

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Old 07-27-2008, 07:41 AM
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It just is no longer worth the effort. Honestly, I think if it came down to it this would be the answer that most Cons that left would give you all. It just ain't worth the fight to defend apostolic doctrine on a forum that is for apostolics.
Wait a minute! Are you saying that part of Apostolic doctrine is putting trinitarians in Hell?

I don't see anyone tearing apart Apostolic doctrine! I don't see anyone saying that the trinity doctrine is correct or the way to go.

What I see is some posters saying that one's perfect comprehension of exactly who Jesus is, won't necessarily send them to the lake of fire.
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Old 07-26-2008, 09:13 PM
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The Bible tells us that we all see through a glass darkly. I do not believe oneness Apostolics have a monopoly on truth. I have seen the Holy Ghost poured out on many people across denominational lines.

I have seen the fruit and the gifts of the Spirit in operation in known "Trinity" churches. There is only one God and his name is Jesus. Don't think that this same Jesus belongs only to the oneness Pentecostal people.

I believe fully in Acts 2:38, John 3:3, & 3:5. I believe that just believing is something the devils do and is only one step in process of salvation. One MUST be born again of the water and the Spirit. If you believe you will obey the word/commandments of the Lord. Repentance, water baptism in Jesus name, and the infilling of the Holy Ghost are a beginning to a new life submitted to Christ and His will. And these signs shall follow them who believe....
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Old 07-26-2008, 09:18 PM
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The Bible tells us that we all see through a glass darkly. I do not believe oneness Apostolics have a monopoly on truth. I have seen the Holy Ghost poured out on many people across denominational lines.

I have seen the fruit and the gifts of the Spirit in operation in known "Trinity" churches. There is only one God and his name is Jesus. Don't think that this same Jesus belongs only to the oneness Pentecostal people.

I believe fully in Acts 2:38, John 3:3, & 3:5. I believe that just believing is something the devils do and is only one step in process of salvation. One MUST be born again of the water and the Spirit. If you believe you will obey the word/commandments of the Lord. Repentance, water baptism in Jesus name, and the infilling of the Holy Ghost are a beginning to a new life submitted to Christ and His will. And these signs shall follow them who believe....
Evening Rhoni...

What people do not understand about salvation is an aspect that far too many have neglected, whether one step or three step. That is repentance, a turning away from sin. Even the devil believes Jesus is Lord and will confess such one day. However, the difference is in the turning from the depravity and vileness of our sins, and turning to God.

Thank God for repentance of sins and believing solely upon Christ for forgiveness of sins.
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Old 07-26-2008, 09:20 PM
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Evening Rhoni...

What people do not understand about salvation is an aspect that far too many have neglected, whether one step or three step. That is repentance, a turning away from sin. Even the devil believes Jesus is Lord and will confess such one day. However, the difference is in the turning from the depravity and vileness of our sins, and turning to God.

Thank God for repentance of sins and believing solely upon Christ for forgiveness of sins.
Good evening my friend

Repentance is such a big step...a change of mind, heart, and attitude which leads to a change in thought, actions, and lifestyle.

Thank God for Jesus!

Love & Prayers, Rhoni
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The Bible tells us that we all see through a glass darkly. I do not believe oneness Apostolics have a monopoly on truth. I have seen the Holy Ghost poured out on many people across denominational lines.

I have seen the fruit and the gifts of the Spirit in operation in known "Trinity" churches. There is only one God and his name is Jesus. Don't think that this same Jesus belongs only to the oneness Pentecostal people.

I believe fully in Acts 2:38, John 3:3, & 3:5. I believe that just believing is something the devils do and is only one step in process of salvation. One MUST be born again of the water and the Spirit. If you believe you will obey the word/commandments of the Lord. Repentance, water baptism in Jesus name, and the infilling of the Holy Ghost are a beginning to a new life submitted to Christ and His will. And these signs shall follow them who believe....
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Old 07-26-2008, 09:15 PM
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OK... done!



(I am having way too much fun while being sick tonight.)
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Old 07-26-2008, 09:17 PM
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Bill, Sorry to hear you are sick. You should try the ice cream diet I am on. I am not losing any weight (and in fact am gaining) but boy am I having fun!
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"We did not wear uniforms. The lady workers dressed in the current fashions of the day, ...silks...satins...jewels or whatever they happened to possess. They were very smartly turned out, so that they made an impressive appearance on the streets where a large part of our work was conducted in the early years.

"It was not until long after, when former Holiness preachers had become part of us, that strict plainness of dress began to be taught.

"Although Entire Sanctification was preached at the beginning of the Movement, it was from a Wesleyan viewpoint, and had in it very little of the later Holiness Movement characteristics. Nothing was ever said about apparel, for everyone was so taken up with the Lord that mode of dress seemingly never occurred to any of us."

Quote from Ethel Goss (widow of 1st UPC Gen Supt. Howard Goss) book "The Winds of God"
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