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Old 07-27-2008, 10:38 PM
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A Voice From the Past - E. L. Holley

The following is an article over 26 years ago from an old elder that I thought I would post on her for discussion/comments/interest. Enjoy...

Holiness-Minded People

(E.L. Holley)

Without becoming proud and haughty, we must set our minds on things pure and holy! We are in the world, but we are not of it! Furthermore, we must get a firmer grip on the principles of holiness and its standards of life. Regardless of the cadence called out by those who advocate worldly steps, we must march to the beat of another Drummer – a high and holy One!

Several areas are under attack, and each of them a vital link in the chain of holiness. The premise behind it all is that holiness of life is not an outer display of standardized rules. To this, we all agree. But, that doesn’t alter the fact that true inner holiness will express itself in outer behavior, manner, dress, etc.

We hold some things to be self-evident. Among these is the proposition that the Holy Ghost baptized believer will abandon the mode of dress which accents sexuality. Clothing which immodestly exposes the body, either through the absence of material or the tightness of fit, has no place in the Christian wardrobe. Nor does artificial hair coloring or cosmetics. Of what purpose does such garb and make-up play in the role of a disciple of Jesus Christ? Are we not to project an image of our Maker? Why mar it by suggestive garments or stains, dyes, and paints?

Another area which can never be abandoned by holiness-minded people is our abstention from worldly sports. If we loosen our grip on the determination to refrain from participation in this whirlpool, we will drown in an ever-widening, ever-increasing vacuum of carnal involvement. One wave of involvement will be followed by another in the circle of justification, and the end result is not difficult to envision. We would become adherents to one of America’s most fanatical cults – the religion of sports.

Gambling has never been acceptable to holiness people. And gambling rarely begins with a trip to Las Vegas for the purpose of beating the games! Usually, it starts in a rather “harmless” way. Then it grows by leaps and bounds! Electronic devices, marble machines, cards, dice, the lottery – all have their lures for individuals. Where does putting a quarter in a “game of skill” end, and putting a quarter in a “game of chance” begin? How can we say “Blackjack” or “Poker” is a vice, but “Gin Rummy” isn’t? One thing is certain, we can never say it is all acceptable!

When we consider the end result of any activity, we must keep in memory that God saved us from a world gone astray. Our peace of mind, our very souls’ salvation is at stake. Should we ever re-activate in our lives those patterns of behavior and expression from which we were saved, we’ll find ourselves astray again.

Therefore, let’s re-affirm our conviction. We will never, never, never surrender our positions! We realize these points are not acceptable to the unregenerate world about us, but for those of us who were brought out of darkness into this marvelous light, these are the sincere expressions of an inner Spirit – One who says, “Wherefore, come out from among them, and be ye separate....”

When unthinking people wade off into the depths of such activities or behavior, they are prone to feel “persecuted” by those who call them back to the shores of truth. God has ordained that we be reminded of eternal values as opposed to temporal pleasures (I Timothy 2:14; II Peter 1:12). Truth-loving people are always thankful for a clear note!

Without becoming proud or haughty, we must set our minds on things pure and holy. Let there be no compromise! [March 1982]

Compiled by, J.R. Ensey. The Best of E.L. Holley, Musings of a man of God, shared through the pages of the Apostolic Sentinel. Advance Ministries, 12391 Lyra Drive, Willis, TX 77378, (409) 856-3419.
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Thank you, I really enjoyed reading something written by Brother Holley.
Very to the point.
Amen!
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Thank you, I really enjoyed reading something written by Brother Holley.
Very to the point.
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What an outstanding article!! I will print it for usage at my church. Simple, clear, concise and most importantly RIGHT!
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The following is an article over 26 years ago from an old elder that I thought I would post on her for discussion/comments/interest. Enjoy...

Holiness-Minded People

(E.L. Holley)

Without becoming proud and haughty, we must set our minds on things pure and holy! We are in the world, but we are not of it! Furthermore, we must get a firmer grip on the principles of holiness and its standards of life. Regardless of the cadence called out by those who advocate worldly steps, we must march to the beat of another Drummer – a high and holy One!

Several areas are under attack, and each of them a vital link in the chain of holiness. The premise behind it all is that holiness of life is not an outer display of standardized rules. To this, we all agree. But, that doesn’t alter the fact that true inner holiness will express itself in outer behavior, manner, dress, etc.

We hold some things to be self-evident. Among these is the proposition that the Holy Ghost baptized believer will abandon the mode of dress which accents sexuality. Clothing which immodestly exposes the body, either through the absence of material or the tightness of fit, has no place in the Christian wardrobe. Nor does artificial hair coloring or cosmetics. Of what purpose does such garb and make-up play in the role of a disciple of Jesus Christ? Are we not to project an image of our Maker? Why mar it by suggestive garments or stains, dyes, and paints?

Another area which can never be abandoned by holiness-minded people is our abstention from worldly sports. If we loosen our grip on the determination to refrain from participation in this whirlpool, we will drown in an ever-widening, ever-increasing vacuum of carnal involvement. One wave of involvement will be followed by another in the circle of justification, and the end result is not difficult to envision. We would become adherents to one of America’s most fanatical cults – the religion of sports.

Gambling has never been acceptable to holiness people. And gambling rarely begins with a trip to Las Vegas for the purpose of beating the games! Usually, it starts in a rather “harmless” way. Then it grows by leaps and bounds! Electronic devices, marble machines, cards, dice, the lottery – all have their lures for individuals. Where does putting a quarter in a “game of skill” end, and putting a quarter in a “game of chance” begin? How can we say “Blackjack” or “Poker” is a vice, but “Gin Rummy” isn’t? One thing is certain, we can never say it is all acceptable!

When we consider the end result of any activity, we must keep in memory that God saved us from a world gone astray. Our peace of mind, our very souls’ salvation is at stake. Should we ever re-activate in our lives those patterns of behavior and expression from which we were saved, we’ll find ourselves astray again.

Therefore, let’s re-affirm our conviction. We will never, never, never surrender our positions! We realize these points are not acceptable to the unregenerate world about us, but for those of us who were brought out of darkness into this marvelous light, these are the sincere expressions of an inner Spirit – One who says, “Wherefore, come out from among them, and be ye separate....”

When unthinking people wade off into the depths of such activities or behavior, they are prone to feel “persecuted” by those who call them back to the shores of truth. God has ordained that we be reminded of eternal values as opposed to temporal pleasures (I Timothy 2:14; II Peter 1:12). Truth-loving people are always thankful for a clear note!

Without becoming proud or haughty, we must set our minds on things pure and holy. Let there be no compromise! [March 1982]

Compiled by, J.R. Ensey. The Best of E.L. Holley, Musings of a man of God, shared through the pages of the Apostolic Sentinel. Advance Ministries, 12391 Lyra Drive, Willis, TX 77378, (409) 856-3419.
Bro. Holley was a gentleman and a man of God.
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Bro. Holley was a gentleman and a man of God.
Unless you crossed him and were unafilliating your church from the UPC!

This article was more of good old time OP logic that you must ban everything because everything leads to something bad.

You can't play Monopoly with dice because the next thing you know you will be in Vegas playing Craps with a blonde hoochie mama at your elbow rooting you on!

I think the article speaks for itself. The ultra cons will revel in it's clarion call for cookie cutter corporate legalism layed down by a preacher modeled after the Old Testament Judges and Prophets rather than Jesus Christ's ministry on earth.
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"We did not wear uniforms. The lady workers dressed in the current fashions of the day, ...silks...satins...jewels or whatever they happened to possess. They were very smartly turned out, so that they made an impressive appearance on the streets where a large part of our work was conducted in the early years.

"It was not until long after, when former Holiness preachers had become part of us, that strict plainness of dress began to be taught.

"Although Entire Sanctification was preached at the beginning of the Movement, it was from a Wesleyan viewpoint, and had in it very little of the later Holiness Movement characteristics. Nothing was ever said about apparel, for everyone was so taken up with the Lord that mode of dress seemingly never occurred to any of us."

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The following is an article over 26 years ago from an old elder that I thought I would post on her for discussion/comments/interest. Enjoy...

Holiness-Minded People

(E.L. Holley)

Without becoming proud and haughty, we must set our minds on things pure and holy! We are in the world, but we are not of it! Furthermore, we must get a firmer grip on the principles of holiness and its standards of life. Regardless of the cadence called out by those who advocate worldly steps, we must march to the beat of another Drummer – a high and holy One!

Several areas are under attack, and each of them a vital link in the chain of holiness. The premise behind it all is that holiness of life is not an outer display of standardized rules. To this, we all agree. But, that doesn’t alter the fact that true inner holiness will express itself in outer behavior, manner, dress, etc.

We hold some things to be self-evident. Among these is the proposition that the Holy Ghost baptized believer will abandon the mode of dress which accents sexuality. Clothing which immodestly exposes the body, either through the absence of material or the tightness of fit, has no place in the Christian wardrobe. Nor does artificial hair coloring or cosmetics. Of what purpose does such garb and make-up play in the role of a disciple of Jesus Christ? Are we not to project an image of our Maker? Why mar it by suggestive garments or stains, dyes, and paints?

Another area which can never be abandoned by holiness-minded people is our abstention from worldly sports. If we loosen our grip on the determination to refrain from participation in this whirlpool, we will drown in an ever-widening, ever-increasing vacuum of carnal involvement. One wave of involvement will be followed by another in the circle of justification, and the end result is not difficult to envision. We would become adherents to one of America’s most fanatical cults – the religion of sports.

Gambling has never been acceptable to holiness people. And gambling rarely begins with a trip to Las Vegas for the purpose of beating the games! Usually, it starts in a rather “harmless” way. Then it grows by leaps and bounds! Electronic devices, marble machines, cards, dice, the lottery – all have their lures for individuals. Where does putting a quarter in a “game of skill” end, and putting a quarter in a “game of chance” begin? How can we say “Blackjack” or “Poker” is a vice, but “Gin Rummy” isn’t? One thing is certain, we can never say it is all acceptable!

When we consider the end result of any activity, we must keep in memory that God saved us from a world gone astray. Our peace of mind, our very souls’ salvation is at stake. Should we ever re-activate in our lives those patterns of behavior and expression from which we were saved, we’ll find ourselves astray again.

Therefore, let’s re-affirm our conviction. We will never, never, never surrender our positions! We realize these points are not acceptable to the unregenerate world about us, but for those of us who were brought out of darkness into this marvelous light, these are the sincere expressions of an inner Spirit – One who says, “Wherefore, come out from among them, and be ye separate....”

When unthinking people wade off into the depths of such activities or behavior, they are prone to feel “persecuted” by those who call them back to the shores of truth. God has ordained that we be reminded of eternal values as opposed to temporal pleasures (I Timothy 2:14; II Peter 1:12). Truth-loving people are always thankful for a clear note!

Without becoming proud or haughty, we must set our minds on things pure and holy. Let there be no compromise! [March 1982]

Compiled by, J.R. Ensey. The Best of E.L. Holley, Musings of a man of God, shared through the pages of the Apostolic Sentinel. Advance Ministries, 12391 Lyra Drive, Willis, TX 77378, (409) 856-3419.
Two thoughts on this: From reading of Elder Holley's disdain for grooming i would have to assume he never shaved. That would have been maring what God gave man naturally.

And as for the clear note I don't thionk there has ever been a clear note on our pentecostal man made standards. Hardly have ever two church's ever agreed on the rules book of what's holiness and what's not.
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Unless you crossed him and were unafilliating your church from the UPC!

This article was more of good old time OP logic that you must ban everything because everything leads to something bad.

You can't play Monopoly with dice because the next thing you know you will be in Vegas playing Craps with a blonde hoochie mama at your elbow rooting you on!

I think the article speaks for itself. The ultra cons will revel in it's clarion call for cookie cutter corporate legalism layed down by a preacher modeled after the Old Testament Judges and Prophets rather than Jesus Christ's ministry on earth.

I just want to say that half the men who read the above quote thought: Can I skip the dice and just get the hoochie mama?
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