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07-29-2008, 09:19 AM
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Re: Pants wearin' women--where do you draw the lin
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Originally Posted by JTULLOCK
I think it does come down to preference. I choose to wear jeans mostly and also at church. Often times it is with a dress shirt untucked. It depends my mood. I am always modest though. I think sometime people outside the church or in what this movement calls 'the World' sees preachers in a suit as being stuffy and thus the church being stuffy. There is a rather large church out here in the west valley. It is VERY large. The pastor is known as thee blue jean preacher. Most every service he wears a somewhat hawaiian shirt and jeans. There was a great article a few years ago about him and the church in one of the papers here. Many, many of the church members interviewed said that the way he dressed influenced them to go to that church, but the teachings and ministering is what kept them. I wonder if this could work in other parts of the country?
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With the world as a whole "dressing down" I believe it is something the church should consider when trying to reach the unsaved.
Living here in Memphis when Cogic comes to town it is amazing all the spectacles they create and the opinions of people in the city.
I was raised to always were my best when going to church. Some people's best is jeans and a t-shirt and if the church is only in suits and $200 dresses, then they feel out of place.
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08-03-2008, 06:52 AM
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Re: Pants wearin' women--where do you draw the lin
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Originally Posted by U376977
Witty reply to the men--but makes no sense at all in the context of this discussion. Nearly all who have replied have referred to "modest" clothing, as did you. But when the clothing is not modest--even is vulgar--it is not the responsibility of the men and women who have to sit and listen to these preachers to get a "relationship with God" and "lose your acute awareness..." of their dress.
When a woman is in the pulpit and their jeans are so tight there is a V in places where we should not see the V expect in the bedroom, then somehow I think you have to put the responsibility on the wearer of the clothes and the producers of the TV and pastors who allow them on their platforms.
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Like Pelathais said, "It is tacky, to draw attention away from worship, to one's self."
I watch almost zero of TV preaching so I just don't see the things you are talking about.
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08-03-2008, 10:22 AM
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Re: Pants wearin' women--where do you draw the lin
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Originally Posted by POWERUP
When my conservative Dad first saw me preach in jeans and shirt tail untucked. I wondered what he would say. Being he had pastored in the upc, the last 30 years. All he said was, why should I say anything, looks comfortable, and if you saw it on TV, so what, we've(UPC) talked about others(anybody other than UPC) for years, but, we continue to read their books, sang their songs, and buy thier materials.
So, Go and tell someone about Jesus. They will probally listen better if you got your Jeans on.
Think about what Jesus wore. There was some fancy stuff back then. But, what did he chose?
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Your dad and I would get a long great. Modesty is modesty no matter where you are. My wife wears modest pants on Sunday nights and midweek services. Some ladies in our church wear entirely too tight pants that aren't appropriate for the house of God or work or anywhere else. Some ladies chose to wear modest dresses and others choose to wear what I would term "party dresses" that, IMO, aren't modest or appropriate at church or anywhere else.
My thing is modesty. What men or women choose to wear can harm their testimony and credibility with a lost world. I can honestly say that for the seven years Jamie and I have been married, she's never embarrassed me or looked unmodest anywhere we've went. Whether we've been 1000's of miles away from home or in our town, she's always represented herself and Christ in the highest form. To me that's what's more important than the what's and where's.
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08-03-2008, 11:13 AM
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Re: Pants wearin' women--where do you draw the lin
I always tell my ladies group if I wear anything that would hinder you precious sisters just let me know...I try to be an example to our church and hope that is what I have always been. Since I never know when I might get called to the front to say something I try to always look nice as possible.
I love my black skirt and there are so many things hat match black.
I could not begin to imagine Brother Alvear in the pulpit in jeans...It is just not his custom...however he does not always wear a suit but he looks nice.
I know different things work for different people...I hardly think my son Arlei would wear a suit to the jungle! However my son Raul Jr would not go to his downtown church without a suit. Some of my boys...
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08-03-2008, 11:16 AM
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Re: Pants wearin' women--where do you draw the lin
and still have more boys!
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08-03-2008, 05:21 PM
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Re: Pants wearin' women--where do you draw the lin
I was thinking about this and I am curious what you people think and feel if anything when the preacher steps up to the pulpit in a pink tie, a pink shirt, or ridiculous cufflinks (Which is very interesting to me how that some ULTRA ULTRA conservative guys are now wearing). Do you have concerns that they are wearing gay apparel.
I am sure we could start a thread and keep it going for days on the good bad and ugly stuff we have seen the ministry wear.
Ladies in Jeans? In the pulpit? Nah, but again and again and again, I am more concerned about me and my household, but consider, the initial post mentioned what, 10 women? How many does that compare to those who aree actually working in the trenches.
Should all be judged by a just few? You guys keep admonishing me for broadbrushing, but hey, you need to look in the mirror now and then too.
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08-03-2008, 06:08 PM
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Re: Pants wearin' women--where do you draw the lin
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Clear distinction of what?
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wow, I have to spell it out? apparel
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08-03-2008, 06:11 PM
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Re: Pants wearin' women--where do you draw the lin
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Originally Posted by rgcraig
I would agree with this too, however, the same can go for men that show too much in some pants that they wear or the way they are sitting on the platform. Ugh!
It's not all just about women.
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08-03-2008, 08:08 PM
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Re: Pants wearin' women--where do you draw the lin
I'm out!
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08-04-2008, 07:27 AM
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Re: Pants wearin' women--where do you draw the lin
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Originally Posted by jaxfam6
I hate jeans on a woman. I do not think they look modest on a lady. Now if she is working and that is the most appropriate attire for her fine but NO ONE should wear anything TIGHT no matter what it is. That is never modest.
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Oh, but someone that is liberal said that modesty is overatted.
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