Polygamy in the Bible

Originally Posted by TK Burk

Dr. Vaughn is only offering philosophy. Here is what the Bible thinks of that….

(Colossians 2:8) Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ.

So far the good Doctor has offered NO SCRIPTURE to support his fictitious doctrine. Until he does, his post is little more than a sad imaginary tale. What I don’t understand though is why is he's so dedicated to arguing for it???

Why are you so dedicated to arguing against what God doesn't argue against?

[TK Burk]

Originally Posted by Dr. Vaughn

The fact you can offer no scripture that say he DOES is proof enough that he does not.. God had NO PROBLEM saying what he considered abominations.. what he despised and my freind Polygamy was never in that list... he despised men who treated their wives unfaily in Polygamy

AGAIN, I ALREADY DID!

Originally Posted by TK Burk

Polygamy is not condoned in the Bible. The hermeneutic law of ‘First Mention’ establishes one man (Adam) being married to one woman (Eve). That first couple is a type of the one bride (the Church) being married to one husband (One God). Genesis 2:24 has “a man” leaving his father and mother so as to become “one flesh” with “his wife.” Such wording indicates a monogamous relationship rather than polygamous. In the past God did ignore certain things due to men’s ignorance, but because of the New Covenant, He now calls all men to repentance (See Acts 14:16, Acts 17:30; Mark 10:5). To help make this marital issue clearer, you might want to look at these: Mat. 19:5, 29; Eph. 5:31, 33; 1Tim. 3:2, 12; Tit. 1:6.

Originally Posted by TK Burk

Like I said TWICE now; God created one man (Adam) and one woman (Eve) to inhabit Eden. According to the hermeneutic Law of First Mention, they are God's PERFECT PATTERN. The Bible admits that in the Old Testament God allowed men to do certain things because of their hard hearts and ignorance. But now, because of the New Covenant of Jesus Christ, men are called to repent of their childish ways and grow into a matured man of God.

So, Dr. Vaughn, when are YOU going to answer THIS??

Originally Posted by TK Burk

I guess the good Doctor needs to show where Jesus (a type of Adam) is said to have multiple brides (the bride is a type of Eve). I can't find any such scripture myself. So please, show us where it is found.

Originally Posted by TK Burk

AGAIN, I ALREADY DID!






So, Dr. Vaughn, when are YOU going to answer THIS??

It's been answered three times by me and others... use the scroll button..

and then show us the scriptures where GOD FORBID Polygamy.. the very second you do I WILL CONCEDE defeat

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by MissBrattified

Okay, Dora may shoot me for this one, BUT:

Scripture does not clearly condemn polygamy. However, I don't agree scripture supports it or, worse, recommends it. I simply think that it was allowed, in the same manner slavery was allowed, and laws were put into place to regulate the practice and keep it humane.

Polygamy is out of line with scriptural ideals in the same way that slavery is out of line with scriptural ideals. In fact, I would go so far as to say that if a slave-owner from another country and culture were converted to Christianity, even if he were a kind and fair owner, he should be encouraged to set his slaves free, in order to be in line with Christian principles.

Polygamy is confusing, it is chaos, it is not in the best interest of the children in the household, and God is not the author of confusion.

Sister...God commanded polygamy to fulfill Liverite marriage. God also blessed David with wives. I honestly believe polygamy can't be judged outside of it's cultural context. In their cultural setting polygamy was a very moral institution compared to the alternatives for women.

By the way, the ten virgins are not support for polygamy. They were bridesmaids who were supposed to light the way with their lamps for the groom and his groomsmen as he made his way to his bride's house. The virgins were not brides. They were unmarried women, and as such, they were virgins. I know. Novel idea.

I was taught that too. But I'm curious as to the historical validity of this idea, I read somewhere that there wasn't a shred of evidence that this was actually the custom in ancient Israel.

[TK Burk]

Originally Posted by Dr. Vaughn

Why are you so dedicated to arguing against what God doesn't argue against?

No, I'm into believing what the Bible says.

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by Dora

I believe there is much more than "feelings" behind my argument against the practice of polygamy. In researching the cultures that still engage in polygamy, I find that the practice is fraught with abuse of women and neglect of children. I can't see how this lifestyle aligns itself with Christ-like living. If you seek to live a Christ-like existence, then the practice of polygamy does not appear to be the best way to do it. One wife is usually prefer above another, the children of the preferred wife receive a greater inheritance or more attention from the father. It appears to be the antithesis of the teachings of Jesus.

Dora....please consider the context. For example in Afghanistan women and children in polygamous marriages may not be treated the way we consider is right in Western culture....but what is the alternative for these women and children in their culture? Most single women in those nations are treated like dogs roaming the streets. Those women in polygamous unions, as undesirable as they might seem to us, have it far better than the unmarried women in their culture.

Originally Posted by TK Burk

No, I'm into believing what the Bible says.

and what does it say regarding Polygamy? Must I post all the scripture where God endorsed it?

[TK Burk]

Originally Posted by Dr. Vaughn

It's been answered three times by me and others... use the scroll button..

and then show us the scriptures where GOD FORBID Polygamy.. the very second you do I WILL CONCEDE defeat

"Concede defeat"? Are you serious? Defeated by what?

I have offered several scriptural reasons why polygamy is not biblical. You, on the other hand, have offered NOT ONE scripture that says Jesus has multiple brides. You have offered NOT ONE scripture that shows polygamy is acceptable in the New Covenant. You have offered NOT ONE scripture that supports anything you're claiming about polygamy being God's acceptable way. Hey Doc, you have not offered anything but your own reasoning, and I can't see where any of that is anything of concern.

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by MissBrattified

I disagree. As respectfully as possible.

A workman is worthy of his hire.
God is no respecter of persons.
Do unto others as you would have them do unto you.
Submit to one another.
Prefer one another.
Have all things in common.
If you have respect of persons, you commit sin.

I could go on and on....

It is written....

Colossians 3:22
Servants, obey in all things your masters according to the flesh; not with eyeservice, as menpleasers; but in singleness of heart, fearing God;

1 Timothy 6:1
Let as many servants as are under the yoke count their own masters worthy of all honour, that the name of God and his doctrine be not blasphemed.

1 Timothy 6:2
And they that have believing masters, let them not despise them, because they are brethren; but rather do them service, because they are faithful and beloved, partakers of the benefit. These things teach and exhort.

Titus 2:9
Exhort servants to be obedient unto their own masters, and to please them well in all things; not answering again;

Slavery (biblical slavery) was never condemned. However, ethical treatment of servants was admonished....

Ephesians 6:9
And, ye masters, do the same things unto them, forbearing threatening: knowing that your Master also is in heaven; neither is there respect of persons with him.

Colossians 4:1
Masters, give unto your servants that which is just and equal; knowing that ye also have a Master in heaven.

Don't equate all forms of slavery to the way it was practiced in the Americas. The American institution of slavery was very brutal and wasn't anything like the biblical slavery.

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by TK Burk

Yep, I used that same line in my B.C. days as my excuse for using certain chemicals. But after I was saved I was saw that salvation and sanctification is all about maturing into Christlikeness. That means changing my childish ways to better reflect the man God fashioned me to become.

Like I said TWICE now; God created one man (Adam) and one woman (Eve) to inhabit Eden. According to the hermeneutic Law of First Mention, they are God's PERFECT PATTERN. The Bible admits that in the Old Testament God allowed men to do certain things because of their hard hearts and ignorance. But now, because of the New Covenant of Jesus Christ, men are called to repent of their childish ways and grow into a matured man of God.

I guess the good Doctor needs to show where Jesus (a type of Adam) is said to have multiple brides (the bride is a type of Eve). I can't find any such scripture myself. So please, show us where it is found.

Why did God command polygamy in the form of Liverite Marriage and even bless David with wives?

Here's a problem with your argument...you say God only tolerated it because of man's ignorance...but man was only ignorant of polygamy's supposed error because God apparently didn't tell them.

The burden is clearly on God to clarify his will...especially in regards to "sin".