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Old 08-10-2008, 08:59 PM
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Re: Polygamy in the Bible

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Bro. Benincasa....I think you're wresting Scripture. Spiritual principles aren't based on "math". Let's return to Scriptural examples and let me ask you....
It's all about math and it's you and your buds who can't count.
First Adam has one rib removed and is made one wife. It sets a Biblical precedent for marriage. Jesus has ONE wife for life, and that's His Bride, finishing the perfect picture of Biblical realtionship. The elders of the church are to reflect this by only having ONE WIFE.

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Was not Abraham one flesh with both Sarah and Hagar?
Gen 17:15-16

"And God said unto Abraham, As for Sarai thy WIFE (SINGULAR), thou shalt not call her name Sarai, but Sarah shall her name be. And I will bless HER (SINGULAR), and give thee a son also of HER (SINGULAR): yea, I will bless HER (SINGULAR), and SHE (SINGULAR) shall be a MOTHER (SINGULAR) of nations; kings of people shall be of HER (SINGULAR)."


Amazingly enough, God only acknowledges Sarah as Abraham's wife. Hagar is considered by God to be Sarah and Abraham's idea. Kind of a short cut to help God along, or should I say forcing God's hand.

Gen 16:2-5

"And Sarai said unto Abram, Behold now, the LORD hath restrained me from bearing: I pray thee, go in unto my maid; it may be that I may obtain children by her. And Abram hearkened to the voice of Sarai. And Sarai Abram's WIFE (SINGULAR) took Hagar her maid the Egyptian, after Abram had dwelt ten years in the land of Canaan, and gave her to HER (SINGULAR) husband Abram to be his WIFE (SARAH AND ABRAHAM'S IDEA). And he went in unto Hagar, and she conceived: and when she saw that she had conceived, her mistress was despised in her eyes. And Sarai said unto Abram, MY WRONG BE UPON THEE: I have given my maid into thy bosom; and when she saw that she had conceived, I was despised in her eyes: THE LORD JUDGE BETWEEN ME AND THEE."


The Lord judge between me and thee? Well, well, well, here we have Abraham's wife admitting that she was wrong, and that Abraham was to blame for allowing Sarah to do such a thing. God's plan was to use Abraham's wife of his youth, not some maid. The promise was only made to ONE WOMAN.

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Yes or no?
Only the one wife was legit in the eyes of God. The promise of Abraham goes through Abraham's wife of his youth.

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Was not Jacob one flesh with Leah, Rachel, and Bilhah?
Again here we have individuals using their own human will to get the job done.

Jacob was tricked into marrying Leah (not Jacob's intent,) and therefore he works seven more years to marry his original choice. Leah knows that Jacob didn't even like her, and since by the tradition of Jacob's people he was supposed to marry the first born, God had respect to Leah. Because Leah is the legal wife (first born daughter), Jacob knew the drill, but wanted to bypass the rules to marry the younger daughter. The father of Leah pulls the switch on Jacob.

Still you have the original wife being the first Leah, it's Jacob who agrees with Laban to gain the second choice. God honors the first and original wife by giving her the most children. Therefore showing us the blessing was upon Leah, the first and legal choice, the first born daughter.


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Was not Moses one flesh with both Zipporah and the "Ethiopian woman"?
Show me where Zipporah was still alive while Moses was married to Zipporah?


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Was not David one flesh with Michal, Ahinoam, Abigail, Maacah, Haggith, Abital, Eglah, and Bathsheba?
David was instructed by the Torah not to do the above, and most of those marriages were done for political reasons as was the case in ancient society.

Deu 17:17

"NEITHER SHALL HE MULTIPLY WIVES TO HIMSELF, that his heart turn not away: neither shall he greatly multiply to himself silver and gold."



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Was not Jacob both a polygamist and a type of Christ?
How can he be when Jesus only has one Bride?

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IF Jacob was an Old Testament type of Christ...would Christ be properly typified by an unrepentant man of an egregious sin like this if polygamy is indeed a sin?
IF a bullfrog hand wings he wouldn't bump his hindquarters every time he hopped.

Listen lad, maybe I need to type slower, JESUS ONLY HAS ONE BRIDE, ONLY ONE.

Yes or no?


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God commanded that the Israelites take all the women as plunder...even though many of these soldiers were already married...
Deuteronomy 20:14
"14But the women, and the little ones, and the cattle, and all that is in the city, even all the spoil thereof, shalt thou take unto thyself; and thou shalt eat the spoil of thine enemies, which the LORD thy God hath given thee."
Are you for real? So you claim the word "TAKE" means to marry?

Elder Burk, now Mr. Aquila has added pedophila and bestiality to his polygamy wierdness. Whatever, Aquila your last name wouldn't happen to be Jeffs would it?

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If polygamy is a sin and not God's will...why did God command it? Is God a sinner?
God commanded it? Where did you see that in the Bible?


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....and please don't run away and leave this thread without addressing these questions. I want to know how you answer. Especially since you accuse some brethren of "wresting Scripture".
Yes, you not only wrest the scripture but you make up this doctrine as you go along. I think your mother should roll up a newspaper and walk into your bedroom while you're posting and bust you across the nose.



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Brother Benincasa

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