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Originally Posted by Praxeas
early methodist long before the 20th century also made "noises" and exhibited other things commonly associated with Pentecostals
This is a strawman. I have never read any Pentecostal say the intellect or mind were evil. *1
And this quote is suspect. He quotes a book on the AOG? Gives the author but WHO actually said these words? This is an antagonistic witness claiming OPs said this, but does not give the name of who said it. *2
He is misrepresenting the view that the "us" were angels, which I see ALL Trinitarians and even OPs that don't want to objectively consider this view say. As you said the angels WERE present. And angels might just have a nature similiar to man and God seeing that they are spirits, God IS a Spirit and we all humans are body soul and spirit *3
Exactly...and this verse never said 'Godhead', 'person' or any such trinitarian theological ideas.
lol...exactly...on the right hand of God is not figuratively yet he is sitting ON God's throne?
Actually in Daniel we have the Ancient of Days and we have "the Son of Man" and only ONE Of them is called God...how does this support the Trinity?
I don't think Trinitarians have proven the Spirit is a distinct person from God or Jesus. If that is the case who is the Spirit of the Father or Christ mentioned in Rom 8:9? John says the Father is Spirit. It does not make any sense ontologically to say the Spirit can't be blasphemed but the Father and Son can if all three are equally God
Exactly no Trinity. No "person". No "Unity in the godhead". In fact MOST depictions are of God and His son Jesus
OPs don't deny a distinction either. We deny they are distinct Divine Persons *4 |
*1 I have never heard any one say it just like that, but I have heard OP folks say stuff pretty close to this.
*2 I have read this quote before. There are many OP's who make statements like this quite emphatically.
*3 Why would any Christian want to consider such a view of that scripture. We're made in the image of God, not angels.
*4 There have been many OP's that I have met that do deny a distinction. I am reminded of an altar call song, "Come to Jesus, just as you are. Come to Jesus, just as you are. Jesus is the Father. Jesus is the Son. Jesus is the Holy Ghost. All three are One. Come to Jesus, just as you are."
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