Steve Pixler - Technology and Dominion - Must hear

[Maple Leaf]

Originally Posted by Praxeas

can someone tell me why they say segwayed? I know what one of those are, how did the word get used this way?

A preacher segwaying from one part of the sermon to another is an amusing word picture, but I expect he really meant that the preacher segued from revelation to opinion.

segue

1. Music. To make a transition directly from one section or theme to another.

2. To move smoothly and unhesitatingly from one state, condition, situation, or element to another: “Daylight segued into dusk” (Susan Dworski).

[pelathais]

Originally Posted by Maple Leaf

A preacher segwaying from one part of the sermon to another is an amusing word picture, but I expect he really meant that the preacher segued from revelation to opinion.

segue

1. Music. To make a transition directly from one section or theme to another.

2. To move smoothly and unhesitatingly from one state, condition, situation, or element to another: “Daylight segued into dusk” (Susan Dworski).

Thank you.

However, to add to the confusion of some readers the phrase "segwayed" is thrown about in a clever off-handed manner. It's a sort of faux naivite in which the two wheeled scooter is substituted for the traditional use of segue as you've defined above.

London's TimesOnline famously (or infamously) confounded the terms and then instead of trying to appear clever they caved and confessed ignorance and corrected the offending verbiage (24th paragragh - be warned, the language is coarse - typically Labour Party British).

[Baron1710]

Originally Posted by CC1

What is it about ultra cons and 2 hour sermons? Do they not think they can get a point across in a reasonable amount of time?

From what I am hearing about the first 40 minutes being great and setting some great principles out only to then have them moulded to preconceived notions and positions must also be an ultra con device because that is exactly what the ultra con pastor from Colorado did at the AMC conference in Nashville I heard. The first 45 minutes could have been preached at Christ Church but then when he got to the application of his sermon he applied it in an extreme way to justify him not allowing anybody in his church to have the internet and nobody under the age of 18 can have a cell phone. Can you say cult?

Originally Posted by pentecostisalive

I don't know if you have listened to Bro. Pixler's message or not, but he was very clear that he needed all of that time to get his point across. Sometimes, it does take more than 20 minutes to get all of your message conveyed correctly.

He did hold my attention and I think that he held his audiences attention for most of the 2 hours. He is a very capable teacher.

Paul, the Apostolic (who was also an ultra-con, by this forum's definition) preached long sermons as well. We know of at least one person that fell asleep and fell out of the window during his sermon.

I did listen to it, painful as it was to listen to someone go off topic about every other minute. This was poorly put together in terms of time management. One rabbit trail after another, what took him an hour for background could have been effectively delivered in no more than 10-15 min.

As for his main point? TV is unusable because the gold from the golden calf was ground up (making the leap that it was not redeemable)...I fail to see the connection here.

[Baron1710]

If you just take his three main points about technology you will do fine (and could easily fit it in a 15 minute sermon).

1. discernment
2. discipline
3. dominion

The problem is he says these are not possible with TV. The Form of TV is in and of itself sinful, "Form is corrupt, not just the content." Yet he talks about youtube and watching "clips" on the computer.

How out of touch is this message? He thinks MTV is the standard in television and that MTV is all about playing music videos.

I disagree with many of your posts on this thread. Steve Pixler does not chase many rabbits, but says most things with purpose and intent.

He said alot of things in context of the entire message, but the following was his main point in my view.

He talked about gold and how that God made it, however man made a form out of it that was unacceptable, and therefore God called gold an idol and rejected it on his people. (Not trying to start a wedding band argument, although it applies)

The same is true with TV. God made the capabilities, but man has perverted the very medium, and therefore it cannot be used by God's people. The very medium to be successful needs to editted to appeal to the senses. The very nature of the medium brings the message and messenger into its submission.

He used the scripture where Paul stated that he would brought under the power of no one. It is a powerful application.

That is my understanding from what I remember and everything in his message related to this overall theme.

[Pastor Keith]

Originally Posted by pentecostisalive

I disagree with many of your posts on this thread. Steve Pixler does not chase many rabbits, but says most things with purpose and intent.

He said alot of things in context of the entire message, but the following was his main point in my view.

He talked about gold and how that God made it, however man made a form out of it that was unacceptable, and therefore God called gold an idol and rejected it on his people. (Not trying to start a wedding band argument, although it applies)

The same is true with TV. God made the capabilities, but man has perverted the very medium, and therefore it cannot be used by God's people. The very medium to be successful needs to editted to appeal to the senses. The very nature of the medium brings the message and messenger into its submission.

He used the scripture where Paul stated that he would brought under the power of no one. It is a powerful application.

That is my understanding from what I remember and everything in his message related to this overall theme.

Classic error, instead getting rid of the idol in our hearts, the outward is far easier and pays less dividends.

Originally Posted by keith4him

Classic error, instead getting rid of the idol in our hearts, the outward is far easier and pays less dividends.

God made a classic error when he told them to get rid of their idols which was physical jewelry.....?

[Baron1710]

Originally Posted by pentecostisalive

God made a classic error when he told them to get rid of their idols which was physical jewelry.....?

Um where exactly is that???

[CC1]

Originally Posted by Maple Leaf

A preacher segwaying from one part of the sermon to another is an amusing word picture, but I expect he really meant that the preacher segued from revelation to opinion.

segue

1. Music. To make a transition directly from one section or theme to another.

2. To move smoothly and unhesitatingly from one state, condition, situation, or element to another: “Daylight segued into dusk” (Susan Dworski).

If a preacher were to segway from one part of his sermon to another he would have to be careful not to fall off and hurt himself!

Someday I am going to segway. I could have rented a segway in Honolulu earlier this year but I think they were around $100 for an hour.

[Pastor Keith]

Originally Posted by pentecostisalive

God made a classic error when he told them to get rid of their idols which was physical jewelry.....?

OT which as a shadow of the reality to come, remember the New Covenant changes man from the inside out. Not the other way.