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Old 08-12-2008, 09:18 AM
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Re: Blessings to all

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If someone presents themselves as having achieved a credential among the system of men
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uses that credential as part of their identity when participating in an online community

how is asking for supporting evidence of having achieved a human/temporal credential anything other than an act consistent with knowing them that labor among us....and consistent with, a support of truth?

For the most part, I find any reference to human credential, among members of the body of God's Christ, as borderiing on complete irrelevance, a type of silliness, in discussions focusing on the Kingdom of God. Yet once evoked, they do present a basis for which credibility can be cross-referenced and questioning be presented to further examine purpose/motive.

So D.V., how does any action, persued in an attempt to verify a poster's genuiness, contradict
"TRULY STAND-ing UP FOR TRUTH"?


To me, it seems reasonable to ask, even though you have no obligation to provide it.
These are the posts I wish Dr. Vaughn would respond to. He prefers to make admin a bogeyman that he can beat with a stick and accuse of being unreasonable.

I have never stated that I believed Dr. Vaughn was not telling the truth. Only within the past few days did I post that I was now beginning to have doubts because of the extended timeframe involved in him providing proof.

I sincerely hope he has been telling the truth and that is why I was anxious for him to resolve this matter quickly when it first came up. If anybody's credibility is being called into question it needs to be resolved as quickly as possible.

Dr. Vaughn has not been asked to leave here and the only restriction he has had regarding posting is the same rules everybody has.
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Old 08-12-2008, 09:21 AM
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Re: Blessings to all

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I apologize. I'm not a Parkbench. I also apologize for not believing the last post by the good Dr.
I also must admit I am not a real "back pew", nor am I a member of a flock(?) of Emperor penguins
(WOW, this is really therapuetic....CONFESSION TRULY is GOOD FOR THE SOUL!


Can you share the specific aspects of his Buh-Bye post that you can NOT believe?
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Old 08-12-2008, 09:25 AM
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Great then you can let us know if it there really is a beach house !!!

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Old 08-12-2008, 09:33 AM
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Great then you can let us know if it there really is a beach house !!!

Destin rocks.
From Panama City to Pensacola, the panhandle is some of the most beautiful white sugar sand and the aqua-color in the surf is a beauty to behold.

We could all do well to spend a AFF long weekend in Destin an consider our wonderful God as we walk along the surf as the sun comes up.

I suggest we plan to meet there during the first week of February 2009 (Lord willing).
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Old 08-12-2008, 09:35 AM
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Destin rocks.
From Panama City to Pensacola, the panhandle is some of the most beautiful white sugar sand and the aqua-color in the surf is a beauty to behold.

We could all do well to spend a AFF long weekend in Destin and consider our wonderful God as we walk along the surf as the sun comes up.

I suggest we plan to meet there during the first week of February 2009 (Lord willing).
I LOVE it there! We could have communion on the beach!

Note: For tbpew to say something rocks makes me laugh!
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Old 08-12-2008, 09:39 AM
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I thought you lived in the Big Easy?????? Now I am confused?
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Old 08-12-2008, 09:40 AM
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That's a good question. I think most people that know me see me as pretty laid back. I don't really like controversy. But, I guess there is still unresolved issues inside of me when it comes to people in positions of authority (or maybe so-called authority) acting like they don't have to answer to anybody. Because for YEARS I respected that so-called authority and was made miserable. Then, when I found out that I believed a bunch of stuff that wasn't true, it made me quite angry. So, that part of me doesn't usually come out unless I come to this forum, where I see people still doing the same things to other people who are maybe as vulnerable as I was. Maybe some day I will be above that and just leave it in the hands of God. For now, it still makes me pretty mad.
thank you for sharing the ponderings of your heart.

What happened at Calvary had a purposed outcome directly relating to those who have mastery in our lives.

The body of Christ has ONE head and a vast diversity of members.

"Neither be ye called masters: for one is your Master, Christ." {Mt 23:10]
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Old 08-12-2008, 09:42 AM
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Re: Blessings to all

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I thought you lived in the Big Easy?????? Now I am confused?
Bro. Epley,

Perhaps it's just a second residence as many have vacationing homes in Destin.
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Old 08-12-2008, 09:46 AM
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Re: Blessings to all

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The Administrators here have demanded proof of my Regent graduation...... or else be banned... so with that I will say goodbye as this forum has overstepped it's role in meddling in the personal lives of people..... However, be assured after I am gone.. I will still be sending the proof they have demanded just for truths sake, once it is recieved... I trust and pray at that time that every member of this forum will TRULY STAND UP FOR TRUTH and rebuke those who lead this forum for their shortsightedness.....

With that said, blessings to all, if I can every help any of you in ANY WAY or if you'r ever in Destin, Fl and wish to stay in our home on the beach.. of course at no charge my email is drvaughn@lavabit.com

Blessings to all of you
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Interestingly enough, you could have cleared all of this up in a short time.

But, when pressed for the truth, you made excuses ranging from not having the degree mailed to you yet, to different spellings of the last name, to calling Regent and having them tell you that for some reason your name was not in the database, they would fix it.

Now, one has to wonder, what else are you fabricating? Is there truly a house in Destin? Are you really going on a year long sabbatical in a motor home? Do you really make 250K per year? Is there really a brain tumor?

Lots of unanswered questions, Mr. Vaughn, and all needless.

Pardon my impertinence, but it sounds to me like you've fabricated a fantasy world, and since you're being pressed to back it up, you are using Admin's admonition as a convenient excuse to run away to another place where people don't know you.

Either way, I hope you find your true north one of these days.
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Re: Blessings to all

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thank you for sharing the ponderings of your heart.

What happened at Calvary had a purposed outcome directly relating to those who have mastery in our lives.

The body of Christ has ONE head and a vast diversity of members.

"Neither be ye called masters: for one is your Master, Christ." {Mt 23:10]
Yes, that's true. Thank you for your response. I also find that AFF is generally not a place to heal in my experience. It is more of a debate forum (and helped me greatly in all it's forms FCF, NFCF etc. a few years back). It was what I needed at the time. I would like to see more compassion around here but maybe that's also my fault as I kept everyone at arms length back then and didn't get close to anyone. But I had to do that, unfortunately, as we were pastoring and going through a lawsuit and I absolutely could not allow anyone to know I was questioning anything. The one person I confided in broke my confidence in my time of need. It was really a bad time. Sorry to pull this thread off track.
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