Blessings to all - Page 5

MissBrattified · #41 08-12-2008, 10:46 AM

Shocking though it may be, I'm going to side with Dr. Vaughn and AB this time. I understand that we all want to know for SURE if he's a DR., but I feel that this forum is overstepping boundaries by making a member provide documentation to prevent termination of membership.

Let's not forget what this is: It's an online internet forum created for discussion purposes, and MANY people have anonymous usernames for the protection of their true identity. It doesn't matter if I share everything except my social security number--I STILL retain the right to protect whatever information I wish to protect.

I would take the same tact if someone questioned whether I was ACTUALLY a music director at our church. There is no WAY I would provide proof, even though it would be easy to do, simply because no one here has the right to demand it.

I understand that you want Dr. V to back up his claims, but I really don't think it is the right of anyone on this forum, including admin, to force him to do so. I don't think anyone should have even picked up the phone or written an email to "check" his story.

I think this is very Gestapo.

Baron1710 · #42 08-12-2008, 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by MissBrattified

Shocking though it may be, I'm going to side with Dr. Vaughn and AB this time. I understand that we all want to know for SURE if he's a DR., but I feel that this forum is overstepping boundaries by making a member provide documentation to prevent termination of membership.

Let's not forget what this is: It's an online internet forum created for discussion purposes, and MANY people have anonymous usernames for the protection of their true identity.

I would take the same tact if someone questioned whether I was ACTUALLY a music director. There is no WAY I would provide proof, even though it would be easy to do, simply because no one here has the right to demand it.

I understand that you want Dr. V to back up his claims, but I really don't think it is the right of anyone on this forum, including admin, to force him to do so. I don't think anyone should have even picked up the phone or written an email to "check" his story.
I think this is very Gestapo.

MissBrattified · #43 08-12-2008, 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Baron1710

Yeah, I'm talkin' to YOU. LOL!!!!

ThePastorsCoach · #44 08-12-2008, 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by rgcraig

AB - you're coming in a little late on this issue.

It's not just the matter of "calling" him Dr.

He has said he attended Regent and received a Ph.D. and there is no record of him attending there.

Oh, OK - I just had some time on my hands and thought I would dispense some of my prolific wisdom today! ROFL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

With all these schools having the on line learning and all - who is to know who has a REAL degree and who does not?

Like I said - I should not have waded in but .......... sometimes crazy gets the best of me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I am REALLY GONNA TRY TO STOP POSTING ON THIS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

MissBrattified · #45 08-12-2008, 10:50 AM

By the way, while I'm on the topic, there is WAY too much of this "my degree is better than yours" or "my degree is valid and yours is just a piece of paper" type of thing going on. Last time I checked, that kind of talk was against scripture. My old principal used to teach us not to do that--something about EMULATIONS.

If you have to put another person down to lift yourself up, you have serious issues. Even if they DESERVE it.

rgcraig · #46 08-12-2008, 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by MissBrattified

By the way, while I'm on the topic, there is WAY too much of this "my degree is better than yours" or "my degree is valid and yours is just a piece of paper" type of thing going on. Last time I checked, that kind of talk was against scripture. My old principal used to teach us not to do that--something about EMULATIONS.

If you have to put another person down to lift yourself up, you have serious issues. Even if they DESERVE it.

Maybe that's the root of the problem and why so many have problems with this.

If it was just his user name and he hadn't of made a point many times about his higher learning, it might not have become an issue.

Baron1710 · #47 08-12-2008, 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by MissBrattified

Yeah, I'm talkin' to YOU. LOL!!!!

Look you can have your opinion. If you post it on here I have every right and in the case of my school the responsibility to check it out. Why don't you ask Daniel A. what was the first thing he did when I sent him the link to the Regent Alumni lookup. I will tell you and save you the time, he put in my name to see what came up. Did I have a problem with that? Absolutely not. The reason why is that I have stated on this forum that I went to law school there. Checking out what someone says is not a bad thing, and if one has held themselves out as something then giving proof of it is easy and no burden at all.

MissBrattified · #48 08-12-2008, 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Baron1710

Look you can have your opinion. If you post it on here I have every right and in the case of my school the responsibility to check it out. Why don't you ask Daniel A. what was the first thing he did when I sent him the link to the Regent Alumni lookup. I will tell you and save you the time, he put in my name to see what came up. Did I have a problem with that? Absolutely not. The reason why is that I have stated on this forum that I went to law school there. Checking out what someone says is not a bad thing, and if one has held themselves out as something then giving proof of it is easy and no burden at all.

I disagree with you, simply because this is, for many people, myself included a place where anonymity is important. I have shared my identity with SOME people, most people probably only have a vague idea, and if I tell something personal about myself under an anonymous identity, then I should NOT be required to prove it to you by providing real information about myself. That is a violation of privacy.

Will I be asked to produce photos to prove I have three children? Or their birth certificates to prove they're really mine?

This is silly, if you ask me. You don't really NEED to know whether Dr. V is actually a doctor. You just WANT to know. Big difference.

pelathais · #49 08-12-2008, 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Dr. Vaughn

The Administrators here have demanded proof of my Regent graduation...... or else be banned... so with that I will say goodbye as this forum has overstepped it's role in meddling in the personal lives of people..... However, be assured after I am gone.. I will still be sending the proof they have demanded just for truths sake, once it is recieved... I trust and pray at that time that every member of this forum will TRULY STAND UP FOR TRUTH and rebuke those who lead this forum for their shortsightedness.....

With that said, blessings to all, if I can every help any of you in ANY WAY or if you'r ever in Destin, Fl and wish to stay in our home on the beach.. of course at no charge my email is drvaughn@lavabit.com

Blessings to all of you
Bro. Vaughn

I can see you point to some degree, however when you introduce yourself with a screen name that includes "DR." in it you are in effect presenting yourself to the public as a "DR." It's like hanging a shingle up outside your office advertising yourself as "Attorney" or "Doctor."

Of course, if you were truly sincere about the privacy issue you might have simply used a screen name that didn't identify you.

I have never seen anyone challenged on AFF for "proof" of any claimed degrees before, but then again- I really haven't seen anyone claim any advanced degrees either - even though I know some members who have one.

Baron1710 · #50 08-12-2008, 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by MissBrattified

I disagree with you, simply because this is, for many people, myself included a place where anonymity is important. I have shared my identity with SOME people, most people probably only have a vague idea, and if I tell something personal about myself under an anonymous identity, then I should NOT be required to prove it to you by providing real information about myself. That is a violation of privacy.

Will I be asked to produce photos to prove I have three children? Or their birth certificates to prove they're really mine?

This is silly, if you ask me. You don't really NEED to know whether Dr. V is actually a doctor. You just WANT to know. Big difference.

He did not try to be anonymous. He claimed authority he did not have and in the process tarnished the reputation of Regent.