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Originally Posted by tbpew
I just think anyone who can interpret the scripture the way you do believes that God talks like a kindergarten teacher to those who seeks him for wisdom.
To think that the wonderful counselor is speaking insights and understandings by stating "you must be born once to be born again" is laugh-able....if it were not for the fact that some folks actually believe that to be the understanding being amplified by Jesus' response to Nicodemas' quandary.
Do we have any other references where our Lord and Savior brings such crystal clarity to the blatantly obvious?
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I got to thinking about your post and thought, "Hey, this guy sounds right", so I went to look at the scripture passage to check it out more, to see what I hadn't seen before.
I have to admit that I'm disappointed. Scripture in no way is speaking of being born again of God twice. Only once.
John 3:1 There was a man of the Pharisees, named Nicodemus, a ruler of the Jews:
2 The same came to Jesus by night, and said unto him, Rabbi, we know that thou art a teacher come from God: for no man can do these miracles that thou doest, except God be with him.
3 Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.
Here is where Jesus is telling him to be born again.
4 Nicodemus saith unto him, How can a man be born when he is old? can he enter the second time into his mother's womb, and be born?
Clearly, Nicodemus isn't understanding. He thinks that Jesus is telling him to be naturally born again.
5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.
It's clear that Jesus is telling him that he's got to be not only born in the natural, but also in the spiritual, thus being born AGAIN.
6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.
Jesus is reaffirming that thought by telling him that being born of water (flesh) is the first time, and being born of the spirit is a second time. He's speaking of two types of being born.
7 Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again.
I think it's clear that Nicodemus, although well educated, didn't understand what Jesus meant until it was explained to him. Jesus explained the difference in being born of water (flesh) and of the spirit, and why He said you must be born AGAIN.
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