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08-27-2008, 01:55 PM
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Re: New Testament writer had long hair
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well.. we do know there was a female apostle mentioned in scripture.. but thats not a fun one to cover for the "no women preachers" crowd...
http://www.godswordtowomen.org/rissjunia.htm
Romans 16:7 - Salute Andronicus and Junia, my kinsmen, and my fellow-prisoners, who are of note among the apostles, who also were in Christ before me.
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I wuz a woman preacher back in "the day".  I am well aquainted.
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08-27-2008, 02:10 PM
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Re: New Testament writer had long hair
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Someone please explain passage marker #5. It was New Testament, so was a writer of one of the NT books a rebellious, long haired hippy since he had long hair and the Nazarite vow was not longer in effect (for those who see the law being 100% abolished under grace)? I dare you to take a crack at it and prove this source being off.
I'd love to see how my brothers who like the "old paths" think about Christianity circa 70 AD and before.
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Who cares? Is this the best choice you can find for debate? Whether someone had long hair?
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08-27-2008, 02:16 PM
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Re: New Testament writer had long hair
It is funny watching people selectively accept history depending on whether it aligns with their views or not...
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08-27-2008, 02:25 PM
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Re: New Testament writer had long hair
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It is funny watching people selectively accept history depending on whether it aligns with their views or not... 
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it goes both ways, liberal and con
in some ways the progressive have a easier job than the conservatives. any good debater knows its way harder to defend something than to deconstruct it given enough time, effort, and diet coke.
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08-27-2008, 02:26 PM
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Re: New Testament writer had long hair
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ok then
the question then stands should be cut the book of James out of the cannon because he was a shameful man (feel free to enjoy that line of logic)? this is a pretty accurate source, and the historian wouldn't have included anything negative about a apostle if it was considered to be shameful... in fact he wrote many books against gnostics and various heretics to defend the faith pre-council of nicea.
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First of all let me ask YOU this, Who is Hegessipus that we should place any credence in him? He is identified by some as a Greek convert others as a Jewish convert and some have even claimed that he is a heretic that translated Apollonius' manuscripts taken from the Hindus of India into Greek in the second century. One group even claims that Hegessipus intended to replace the worship of Christ as the central figure of Christianity with the worship of Apollonius!
No you will have to do better than that to stir up trouble around here.
I SUGGEST you touch on the subject of lights, fog machines and the veil if you really want to get a rise around here.
Just my opinion, valuable as it is.
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08-27-2008, 02:31 PM
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Re: New Testament writer had long hair
Does anyone have inspired-of-God writings that indicate James had long hair? lol We need Bible, and not fallible history.
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08-27-2008, 02:34 PM
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Re: New Testament writer had long hair
It is human nature to accept what we like and disapprove what we don´t like...
However when we say the scriptures teach something we must really know that the scriptures teach it. To say I perfere is the best if we are in doubt.
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08-27-2008, 02:36 PM
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Re: New Testament writer had long hair
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Originally Posted by TCSQ
First of all let me ask YOU this, Who is Hegessipus that we should place any credence in him? He is identified by some as a Greek convert others as a Jewish convert and some have even claimed that he is a heretic that translated Apollonius' manuscripts taken from the Hindus of India into Greek in the second century. One group even claims that Hegessipus intended to replace the worship of Christ as the central figure of Christianity with the worship of Apollonius!
No you will have to do better than that to stir up trouble around here.
I SUGGEST you touch on the subject of lights, fog machines and the veil if you really want to get a rise around here.
Just my opinion, valuable as it is.
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fog machines are gonna be tougher to drag outta scripture or accepted history
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08-27-2008, 02:36 PM
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Re: New Testament writer had long hair
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Originally Posted by TCSQ
First of all let me ask YOU this, Who is Hegessipus that we should place any credence in him? He is identified by some as a Greek convert others as a Jewish convert and some have even claimed that he is a heretic that translated Apollonius' manuscripts taken from the Hindus of India into Greek in the second century. One group even claims that Hegessipus intended to replace the worship of Christ as the central figure of Christianity with the worship of Apollonius!
No you will have to do better than that to stir up trouble around here.
I SUGGEST you touch on the subject of lights, fog machines and the veil if you really want to get a rise around here.
Just my opinion, valuable as it is.
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I know this is about James but what about Paul and his N. vow?
I am not for men with long hair but this interests me to know how to give an acceptable answer.
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08-27-2008, 02:37 PM
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Re: New Testament writer had long hair
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fog machines are gonna be tougher to drag outta scripture or accepted history 
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Jude 2:2
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