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Old 09-03-2008, 10:49 AM
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I deeply resent you calling the President a descipacle creep. For your information there are many of us who love and respect the President and think people like you are ......well...... I can't say it or I would be banned.
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Partisanship is an incredibly powerful thing. How can the "baby killer" Lieberman be roundly praised about anything. Shouldn't being a baby killer trump anything said like it apparently does at Democratic gathering? I pretty much expected in advance the general reaction on this forum to be that the DNC was entirely weak and uninspired and the RNC was 100% powerful. It is just so predictable to me and comes across as disengenuous to the casual observer.
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Partisanship is an incredibly powerful thing. How can the "baby killer" Lieberman be roundly praised about anything. Shouldn't being a baby killer trump anything said like it apparently does at Democratic gathering? I pretty much expected in advance the general reaction on this forum to be that the DNC was entirely weak and uninspired and the RNC was 100% powerful. It is just so predictable to me and comes across as disengenuous to the casual observer.
It is predictable and expected.............
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Partisanship is an incredibly powerful thing. How can the "baby killer" Lieberman be roundly praised about anything. Shouldn't being a baby killer trump anything said like it apparently does at Democratic gathering? I pretty much expected in advance the general reaction on this forum to be that the DNC was entirely weak and uninspired and the RNC was 100% powerful. It is just so predictable to me and comes across as disengenuous to the casual observer.
He supports McCain's protection of our country. That is why he was there, being a Jew, it is important to him.
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Old 09-03-2008, 11:14 AM
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He supports McCain's protection of our country. That is why he was there, being a Jew, it is important to him.
PO, I've seen so many people who also said good things be dismissed, attacked, and discounted as "baby killers". If someone is a baby killer, they should be castigated, and it should happen to every baby killer no matter which convention they happen to speak at.
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Old 09-03-2008, 11:19 AM
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PO, I've seen so many people who also said good things be dismissed, attacked, and discounted as "baby killers". If someone is a baby killer, they should be castigated, and it should happen to every baby killer no matter which convention they happen to speak at.
Stew,
I think some do not consider an embryo a baby formed and they don't view themselves as baby killers.

McCain says it's a human life at conception. Obama had a totally lame comment for his answer, dancing around science, etc.

I have to vote for the party that "best" represents my views knowing that I am never going to be 100% pleased with everything.

There are some things I don't like about my pastor, but God tells me to love this man and see it through.

I feel that way about a lot of things, including staying married for 21 years.

You have to take the good with the bad. If my husband beat me, he'd be gone or dead depending on my mood and how close to any dangerous device I would be if he attacked me. lol

This is how I view everything in life.
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Old 09-03-2008, 11:22 AM
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I had to chime in here....President Bush just commended John McCain and his wife for being adoptive parents. But he ran a smear campaign against John McCain's adopted daughter in the 2000 South Carolina primary. What a despicable creep! lol
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Ditto as well.
Maybe someone should remind this guy that the Bible tells us not to speak disrespecfully of our leaders.
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Old 09-03-2008, 11:25 AM
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Stew,
I think some do not consider an embryo a baby formed and they don't view themselves as baby killers.

McCain says it's a human life at conception. Obama had a totally lame comment for his answer, dancing around science, etc.

I have to vote for the party that "best" represents my views knowing that I am never going to be 100% pleased with everything.

There are some things I don't like about my pastor, but God tells me to love this man and see it through.

I feel that way about a lot of things, including staying married for 21 years.

You have to take the good with the bad. If my husband beat me, he'd be gone or dead depending on my mood and how close to any dangerous device I would be if he attacked me. lol

This is how I view everything in life.
PO, but that is the thinking that has us where we are 35 years later. It is accepting millions of murders as if we are powerless to actually do anything about it. It is the moral majority not acting like we are in a Democracy. If we had not been pacified by rhetoric, there was a time when abortion was not institutionalized and the religious right could have actually used it's muscle and made sure that politicians at every level of government were going to move to stop the murders...or never be elected again.
An "Abortion is Murder" placard means very little to me otherwise and does nothing to fix anything. Sadly, we are nearing a point where I fear it may actually be irreversible, and to have some of the same people that took advantage of the situation or allowed it to get to this point come with the same rhetoric is nowhere near enough...and borderline offensive.
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Old 09-03-2008, 11:35 AM
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PO, but that is the thinking that has us where we are 35 years later. It is accepting millions of murders as if we are powerless to actually do anything about it. It is the moral majority not acting like we are in a Democracy. If we had not been pacified by rhetoric, there was a time when abortion was not institutionalized and the religious right could have actually used it's muscle and made sure that politicians at every level of government were going to move to stop the murders...or never be elected again.
An "Abortion is Murder" placard means very little to me otherwise and does nothing to fix anything. Sadly, we are nearing a point where I fear it may actually be irreversible, and to have some of the same people that took advantage of the situation or allowed it to get to this point come with the same rhetoric is nowhere near enough...and borderline offensive.
Stew,
You have given me the impression of being an intelligent, kind, solid, level-headed man.

I just don't see how we can "force" the views we have about abortion on a society that is largely "liberal"!

When I worked in sales the women would come unglued if you said "Salesman" and not "Salesperson". I was so annoyed by that and told one woman, "I'm sorry. I'm not having an identify crises." lol

We deal with people all the time where we have to be careful with our religious beliefs on a day to day basis. Wise as serpents and gentle as doves - supposed to be, anyway.

What I'm trying to say is that the Republicans, and some of the info has been posted, have "wisely" and "slowly" come in and done some minor reforms moving the issue along. One thing is trying to establish "when" is human life formed.

We can't put someone on their knees at an altar anymore than we can put them in the Bapistry. We cannot make this whole country view themselves as babykillers when their backgrounds are without conscience.

It's not an easy piece of legislation. I take Lieberman for his good qualities, as I do my Banker and take care of my own life, knowing that God can make the difference if the church becomes what He has always intended - a powerful, anointed force in this world.

I just can't view this issue any other way.
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Stew,
You have given me the impression of being an intelligent, kind, solid, level-headed man.

I just don't see how we can "force" the views we have about abortion on a society that is largely "liberal"!

When I worked in sales the women would come unglued if you said "Salesman" and not "Salesperson". I was so annoyed by that and told one woman, "I'm sorry. I'm not having an identify crises." lol

We deal with people all the time where we have to be careful with our religious beliefs on a day to day basis. Wise as serpents and gentle as doves - supposed to be, anyway.

What I'm trying to say is that the Republicans, and some of the info has been posted, have "wisely" and "slowly" come in and done some minor reforms moving the issue along. One thing is trying to establish "when" is human life formed.

We can't put someone on their knees at an altar anymore than we can put them in the Bapistry. We cannot make this whole country view themselves as babykillers when their backgrounds are without conscience.

It's not an easy piece of legislation. I take Lieberman for his good qualities, as I do my Banker and take care of my own life, knowing that God can make the difference if the church becomes what He has always intended - a powerful, anointed force in this world.

I just can't view this issue any other way.
PO I'm just saying that for decades we did have a moral majority who could have demanded action and shaped legislation at every level of governement if they had done just that...demanded action. Instead we allowed our positions to become purely philisophical and rhetorical, and in my opinion the GOP used the philosophy and rhetoric and turned it into a powerful political tool. We had the wherewithal to have filled every level of governement with pro-life politicians...and then follow that up with a mandate that they actually govern like pro-life politicians.
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