68% of first time marriages end in divorce? Too hard to believe. In fact; I read that even the statistic that half end in divorce isn't quite accurate because of how marriages and divorces are measured.
The rates have been measured on a yearly basis which means that there are actually more marriages from previous years that are counted if they divorce but were not counted as a marriage for that year. So the numbers are skewed... (I think I am understanding this right; but feel free to correct me).
I wonder why Jesus didn't look different than other men of His day so people would approach him due to his outward look to ask what message He was sending?
I did not say that. I am speaking to the specific discussion we are having. In this case I do not see that the way one dresses sends a message per se. It is a result, not a message. Big difference. Now the result may be analyzed to say that one is sending a message. But I contend that the message is not the catalyst.
Your internal message definition would be correct. But to assume that the external is what you say is fallacious and assumes exactly what Pastor Poster has been saying you are saying. You have caught yourself in your own "double standard" of judging the heart of the person by the way they dress.
Brother, I can't believe that you wouldn't even see that there is a seed of correctness in what I am saying.
You must think we are polarizing to an extent we have our backs turned to reality.
Why oh why is it that when a woman who has constantly and consistently sent the message that she is compliant, she is holy, whatever, through her appearance would be shocked and frightened to the bottom of her mortal soul to have ANYONE see her outside her uniform?
This to me indicates that there is a perspective toward sending a message than it is to really please the Lord. I can also ask about the way she dresses in and around her own home. WHy it it only important when there are people around?
Brother, I can't believe that you wouldn't even see that there is a seed of correctness in what I am saying.
You must think we are polarizing to an extent we have our backs turned to reality.
Why oh why is it that when a woman who has constantly and consistently sent the message that she is compliant, she is holy, whatever, through her appearance would be shocked and frightened to the bottom of her mortal soul to have ANYONE see her outside her uniform?
This to me indicates that there is a perspective toward sending a message than it is to really please the Lord. I can also ask about the way she dresses in and around her own home. WHy it it only important when there are people around?
I go unclothed in certain areas of my home.
In public, I don't. Even if modesty were not a Biblical concept, i would still not want to be a stumblingblock to anyone.
Well, maybe you are knocking on the door to the barn mistaking it for the house...
What I am questioning is the motive and intent of an individual who is making an attempt to BE separate from the mainstream, so they make an attempt to LOOK separate from the mainstream. This in my mind is shallow separation, because it is based on outward and fleshly ability. I am also questioning the contemporary message of Separation from the world that used to be preached under the heading of holiness standards.
Only the old school preachers even use that terminology anymore because the contemporary belief is that NO, you cannot do anything to be more HOLY in the eyes of the Lord. I can't remember the last time I heard the term Holiness Standards come out of the mouth of a preacher, but I hear separation from the world, constantly. I am just calling for folks to be honest with themselves even if it challenges their cultural foundations.
I watch this woman pretty much all day from across the table. She wears her habit, her long flowing cotton robes and she has a very pecular countenance. One could say she is plainfaced, chaste, humble, non-assuming, yet at the same time, she wears all these things with a certain panache that communicates...I am a nun, I am plainface, chaste, humble and non-assuming having given my life to God...and you are not.
I then considered the pretty outrageous thought (the class is rather boring), Apostolic women are the representation of the Apostolic (or more specifically the UPC) nuns considering the expectations of the church on the women!
In a modest dressing culture, it wouldn't have been as outwardly apparent.
We don't happen to live in a modest culture.
The 'be ye separate' scripture was written over 2000 years ago. We say that it means we should dress different. I'm asking how Jesus followed that command Himself.
There are lots of people who dress modestly that are unchurched.
__________________
I've gone and done it now! I'm on Facebook!!!
68% of first time marriages end in divorce? Too hard to believe. In fact; I read that even the statistic that half end in divorce isn't quite accurate because of how marriages and divorces are measured.
The rates have been measured on a yearly basis which means that there are actually more marriages from previous years that are counted if they divorce but were not counted as a marriage for that year. So the numbers are skewed... (I think I am understanding this right; but feel free to correct me).
Actually, the figure jumped from 50% of all first time marriages in the United States end in divorce to 68% about three years ago. The stats are higher for second marriages, but tend to level out for third marriages.
I am not sure about the skew you are talking about. I do know that since 1995, the divorce rate in Pentecostal circles, which includes trinity pentecostals as well as oneness, has dramatically increased.
I don't know enough about the current measures to knowledgably talk about the possible bias. It has been awhile since I took statistics to recall the margin of error but it looks like it would have to be pretty accurate to come out of governmental census documents.
Linear Mode
