Do We Sin Every Day?

[Actaeon]

IF we sin...WE have an advocate,...........

[Sister Alvear]

Oh! how thankful I am for an Advocate...

[Michael The Disciple]

IF we sin. That is the key. This doctrine that says we cant stop sinning will be resposible for the destruction of multitudes. If and when we sin he do have an advocate. Yet BALANCE THAT with cutting your hand off instead of sinning.

Can we cease from sin?

1: What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin, that grace may abound?
2: God forbid. How shall we, that are dead to sin, live any longer therein? Rom. 6:1-2

To sin every day or even on a continuing basis is to CONTINUE in sin. Paul says "How shall we that are DEAD to sin live in it"

So Paul taught we could cease from sin.

Peter had strong words for those who COULD NOT cease from sin.

12: But these, as natural brute beasts, made to be taken and destroyed, speak evil of the things that they understand not; and shall utterly perish in their own corruption;
13: And shall receive the reward of unrighteousness, as they that count it pleasure to riot in the day time. Spots they are and blemishes, sporting themselves with their own deceivings while they feast with you;
14: Having eyes full of adultery, and that cannot cease from sin; beguiling unstable souls: an heart they have exercised with covetous practices; cursed children: 2 Peter 2:12-14

Notice verse 14. These people cannot cease from sin. If sinning every day is NOT not being able to cease from sin pray tell what is?

[mfblume]

Hi all,

This has always been one of my favourite topics. We do not have to sin every day. That is why Romans 6 teaches we are dead to sin since we were buried into Christ's death by baptism. But unless we really understand this and truly get it into our spirits, which is the entire problem with saints dead to sin who still sin, we will not enjoy it.

Folks, we're dead to sin! Why should we live any longer in it?

Paul did not say he was crucified every day. He said he died daily in the sense that his life was physically threatened each day due to the persecution he faced. It was a physical threat, not spiritual.

If you read carefully, Paul said death to sin occurs ONCE when we are saved, and dying to SELF is ongoing. Self denial is every day. Not dying to sin.

My thoughts, anyway.

[Hoovie]

Originally Posted by mfblume

Hi all,

This has always been one of my favourite topics. We do not have to sin every day. That is why Romans 6 teaches we are dead to sin since we were buried into Christ's death by baptism. But unless we really understand this and truly get it into our spirits, which is the entire problem with saints dead to sin who still sin, we will not enjoy it.

Folks, we're dead to sin! Why should we live any longer in it?

Paul did not say he was crucified every day. He said he died daily in the sense that his life was physically threatened each day due to the persecution he faced. It was a physical threat, not spiritual.

If you read carefully, Paul said death to sin occurs ONCE when we are saved, and dying to SELF is ongoing. Self denial is every day. Not dying to sin.

My thoughts, anyway.

Good thoughts.

MF Blume it is nice to see you here, I have enjoyed reading your articles on the web.

[mfblume]

Thanks, brother,

This issue reminds me of the type of our victory in Israel's conquest for Canaan. God gave Canaan to Israel, with all its enemy tribes and obstacles. He said it was their's. But when Israel came to the borders, they doubted and were not convinced they could take the land. THey doubted God's word.

I see this as believers today doubting they are dead to sin. They look at the sins and temptations like Israel looked at the tribes and well walled cities, and fear they cannot overcome them. Too much to ask! However, we CAN! Romans 6:12-14 says sin shall not have dominion over us, and we should not let sin reign in our mortal flesh.

But the whole experience requires genuine and real faith in it. The problem I see is that people EXPECT to sin. And when we expect to do this, we will find a way to do it. We are so SIN-CONSCIOUS, and therefore we doubt we can live above sin. Romans is trying to get us SON-conscious, so that we EXPECT to have victory. Once we get the idea of Romans 6 into our spirits and really BELIEVE IT, we will expect to overcome sin!

I am actually preparing to write a book on this very issue.

[berkeley]

Blume is here!!

[mfblume]

Originally Posted by Berkeley

Blume is here!!

Hey bro., thanks for the excitement! lol

I preached lately about the STANDING we have in Christ versus our WALK. Standing is the position we have, without necessarily requiring any behavioural change. We are all seated with Christ above sin and all enemies when we're saved. But not until we REALIZE this will we venture forth to expect to see differences in our dealings with sin. So it takes a lot of teaching -- especially from Romans 6 -- to see where we are so we can learn what we can expect, and AGREE WITH IT to WALK IN IT.

The scripture came to my mind, "How can two WALK together, except they be agreed." We STAND "with Christ" in the position of death to sin and power over all enemies. But OUR WALKS refer to our ACTIVITY. We will not see the activity WITH CHRIST until we AGREE WITH HIS WORD about our standing. It is possible to read these scriptures about our deaths to sin, and not actually AGREE with them. We KNOW we should agree with them, but that is only a conscious mental thing. When we really "get it", though, we have revelation, and WE AGREE. So not only are we dead with Christ and buried with Christ and risen and seated with Christ in heavenly places (POSITION), but we can WALK WITH HIM in power. But how can two WALK TOGETHER except they be AGREED?

As far as God is concerned, we are dead to sin and have power over it. WE MUST AGREE WITH HIM, so we CAN "WALK with" him and LIVE that victory!

[berkeley]

Originally Posted by mfblume

Hey bro., thanks for the excitement! lol

I preached lately about the STANDING we have in Christ versus our WALK. Standing is the position we have, without necessarily requiring any behavioural change. We are all seated with Christ above sin and all enemies when we're saved. But not until we REALIZE this will we venture forth to expect to see differences in our dealings with sin. So it takes a lot of teaching -- especially from Romans 6 -- to see where we are so we can learn what we can expect, and AGREE WITH IT to WALK IN IT.

The scripture came to my mind, "How can two WALK together, except they be agreed." We STAND with Christ in the position of death to sin and power over all enemies. But OUR WALKS refer to our ACTIVITY. We will nto see the activity WITH CHRIST until we AGREE WITH HIS WORD about our standing. It is possible to read these scriptures about our deaths to sin, and not actually AGREE with them. We KNOW we should agree with them, but that is only a conscious mental thing. When we really "get it", though, we have revelation, and WE AGREE. So not only are we dead with Christ and buried with Christ and risen and seated with Christ in heavenly places (POSITION), but we can WALK WITH HIM in power. But how can two WALK TOGETHER except they be AGREED?

As far as God is concerned, we are dead to sin and have power over it. WE MUST AGREE WITH HIM, so we CAN WALK with him and LIVE that victory!

Amen and Amen!! I'm glad you decided to join us.


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[Hoovie]

Originally Posted by mfblume

Thanks, brother,

This issue reminds me of the type of our victory in Israel's conquest for Canaan. God gave Canaan to Israel, with all its enemy tribes and obstacles. He said it was their's. But when Israel came to the borders, they doubted and were not convinced they could take the land. THey doubted God's word.

I see this as believers today doubting they are dead to sin. They look at the sins and temptations like Israel looked at the tribes and well walled cities, and fear they cannot overcome them. Too much to ask! However, we CAN! Romans 6:12-14 says sin shall not have dominion over us, and we should not let sin reign in our mortal flesh.

But the whole experience requires genuine and real faith in it. The problem I see is that people EXPECT to sin. And when we expect to do this, we will find a way to do it. We are so SIN-CONSCIOUS, and therefore we doubt we can live above sin. Romans is trying to get us SON-conscious, so that we EXPECT to have victory. Once we get the idea of Romans 6 into our spirits and really BELIEVE IT, we will expect to overcome sin!

I am actually preparing to write a book on this very issue.

Please announce it's completion and tell us how to order.