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Old 10-04-2008, 06:26 PM
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So now it's time for the bailout to work, right?

NEW YORK — Washington's financial bailout plan is now law. So the credit spigot will start flowing again, banks will resume lending, and an economic recovery can begin, right?

Wrong. Experts say the most important thing that needs to happen before the $700 billion bailout even has a chance of working: Home prices must stop falling. That would send a signal to banks that the worst has passed and it's safe to start doling out money again.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,432763,00.html

Thanks Democrats. Thanks Republicans that voted yes. Thanks George Bush.
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Old 10-04-2008, 06:44 PM
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Re: So now it's time for the bailout to work, righ

You should just sum it all up and say, thanks Socialists who want government control of everything.
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Old 10-04-2008, 08:40 PM
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Re: So now it's time for the bailout to work, righ

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You should just sum it all up and say, thanks Socialists who want government control of everything.
You know, for all the talk of "Our Country is becoming Socialist, Communist" or whatever the criticism is-- it is happening in OUR COUNTRY after 8 YEARS of REPUBLICAN leadership.

Thanks Mr. Bush!

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You know, for all the talk of "Our Country is becoming Socialist, Communist" or whatever the criticism is-- it is happening in OUR COUNTRY after 8 YEARS of REPUBLICAN leadership.

Thanks Mr. Bush!

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Well it's been happening before that. I think RR was probably the last real President this nation had that wasn't a globalist. Bush 'New World Order' Bush might not have domestically pushed socialism but he was and is clearly a globalist
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Well it's been happening before that. I think RR was probably the last real President this nation had that wasn't a globalist. Bush 'New World Order' Bush might not have domestically pushed socialism but he was and is clearly a globalist
I think the assault on personal liberty that has happened during the last 8 years of his Presidency is not normal-- nor does it fit in line with my idea of what America stands for.
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You know, for all the talk of "Our Country is becoming Socialist, Communist" or whatever the criticism is-- it is happening in OUR COUNTRY after 8 YEARS of REPUBLICAN leadership.

Thanks Mr. Bush!

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You can blame the president all you want but you have the one person in your sights. You need to look to the Congress. Both sides are guility of the mess we are in. We NEED a house cleaning!
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I think the assault on personal liberty that has happened during the last 8 years of his Presidency is not normal-- nor does it fit in line with my idea of what America stands for.
As far as the assault on Liberty I agree. It has only sped up, but that began a long time ago. Under Clinton too that was eroded with certain UN agreements Clinton made the US a part of. That is why I have said Bush is not really a Conservative...

We have the highest spending ever under him, not counting the war. He is not a fiscal conservative other than his promises on taxes. Both "groups" are for globalization. I think the major difference is the Neo-Cons want America to be at the top of the heap and the Dems want American to be just another "Nation/State" of the UN.

Anyone here ever hear of Admiral Poindexter and DARPA? I've always been kinda leery of the conspiracy theory scene but I have to admit I really believe there is a monster conspiracy happening in the US with global ramifications and that our economic woes, our political upheavels, the price of gas, our expansionism...everything serves as a part of that to:

Bring the US down economically to be more equal with the rest of the world as far as the general population goes, leaving only a small group of elite rich.

Marginlize the US on the world scene

Form a North Atlantic Union and one currency for Mexico, Canada and the US.

Do the same around the world with other areas.

Use this as part of a one world government and economy.

I do see biblical ramifications here. I don't trust either party, not because all Dems and Repubs are corrupt but because those in power are. I don't trust George Bush. He is a trojan horse of the elite powers that be in America. Politicians are not in control, bankers and oilmen are.

There are certain politicians that would be better for America that can never ever be elected because the powers that be don't want them to. They get who they want elected. They have the money and power to do that. If you don't agree with them they have the money and power to marginalize them, destroy their reputation or even have them killed. I believe this is what happened to Kennedy.

I don't believe in UFOs or Aliens. I don't believe our government is hiding crashed UFOs at Area 51.

I believe they are using Arab unrest to further their agenda. I believe they believe Order out of Chaos will bring a New World Order. I believe they believe the American public will never be accepting to great changes without something very dramatic happening like WW2. Veitnam and 9/11. I believe 9/11 was done by Arab Muslims but I also believe someone in our governmental agency KNEW they were going to do this and did not do anything or enough to prevent it. It fit into their greater scheme of things.

I believe that is why our borders are STILL largely unprotected. That is why our Airport security still stinks. That is why we are spending Billions of Dollars in Iraq and not Afghanistan...particularly when Iraq has several billions of dollars in surplus and they pay less than a dollar per gallon for gas.

Iran voted democratically a President many years ago. He nationalized their oil fields and then our CIA destablized his governement and put the Shah in his place. They hated us for doing that. It was about oil...money and power and not about spreading democracy. Perhaps this is why Chavez rants about the US so much. He nationalized their oil fields too.

Iran no longer sells oil in dollars, a threat they made good on. Those are probably the real reasons we want to get them and not nukes. Remember Iraq was supposed to have WMDs too and if they had any they were too little too insignificant to be found
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