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View Poll Results: Do you agree with this view on Salvation?
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Yes, that is how I see it.
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No, it is all or nothing.
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I have a different take altogether.
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10-08-2008, 04:49 PM
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Re: Poll: How many agree with this view of Salvati
Steve Eply is going to be very suprised at all the people in heaven
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10-08-2008, 04:54 PM
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Re: Poll: How many agree with this view of Salvati
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Originally Posted by All4one
Steve Eply is going to be very suprised at all the people in heaven
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Yes, I think we all are in for a surprize. And think of the shock of discovering who is NOT there!
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10-08-2008, 05:38 PM
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Re: Poll: How many agree with this view of Salvati
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Yes, I think we all are in for a surprize. And think of the shock of discovering who is NOT there!
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This might sound crazy, but I don't think that we'll have a memory of those we knew on earth who didn't make it. There will be no tears or sadness in heaven. If we remembered those who we thought would make it, but didn't... well, we'd be sad. Of course, I could be wrong.... but that's just my personal thinking..
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10-08-2008, 05:52 PM
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Re: Poll: How many agree with this view of Salvati
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Originally Posted by Tina
This might sound crazy, but I don't think that we'll have a memory of those we knew on earth who didn't make it. There will be no tears or sadness in heaven. If we remembered those who we thought would make it, but didn't... well, we'd be sad. Of course, I could be wrong.... but that's just my personal thinking..
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I would think that if God wipes the tears from our eyes that raises the possibility that there will be sad memories, but that God Himself will comfort us, only after which there will be no more sorrow.
Rev 21:4 And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away.
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10-08-2008, 06:51 PM
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Re: Poll: How many agree with this view of Salvati
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Originally Posted by keith4him
I am not sure I qualify as a former 3 stepper or even now a 1 stepper.
I believe faith that saves us, but that faith has various applications. In this age the application of faith is repentance, baptism and receiving the Holy Spirit as being the normative experience of a faith filled believer.
But what I can't find or see in scripture is a all or nothing approach.
I will not condemn a person who upon a sincere faith expression in Jesus being the answer to their sin problem.
Whom God justifies I will not declare them to be lost or not right with God.
But the believer who refuses to obey revelation and knowledge at that point refuses to be a believer.
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Can't quite agree on this. While I think it is the normative experience for the new Christian, I would say it is the faith placed in Christ that causes and brings a new believer to repentance, baptism and recieving the Spirit.
I do agree on "Whom God justifies I will not declare them to be lost or not right with God" -- further, I would also argue it is not always clearly known (by man) who is justified.
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Articles on such subjects as "The New Birth," will be accepted, whether they teach that the new birth takes place before baptism in water and Spirit, or that the new birth consists of baptism of water and Spirit. - THE PENTECOSTAL HERALD Dec. 1945
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10-08-2008, 07:06 PM
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Go Dodgers!
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Re: Poll: How many agree with this view of Salvati
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Nice dodge, are you a politician?  |
Politicians? Drive a dodge? HAHAHA
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- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
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10-08-2008, 08:11 PM
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Re: Poll: How many agree with this view of Salvati
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Originally Posted by Stephen Hoover
Can't quite agree on this. While I think it is the normative experience for the new Christian, I would say it is the faith placed in Christ that causes and brings a new believer to repentance, baptism and recieving the Spirit.
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I think you reworded what Keith said! To which I would completely agree. 
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10-08-2008, 08:51 PM
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I believe the Gospel of Jesus
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Re: Poll: How many agree with this view of Salvati
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Originally Posted by Steve Epley
Everyone from Pentecost until now that has not obeyed Acts 2:38 is lost. |
Steve, since no flesh is justified by the deeds of the law, how then did people get saved before Pentecost?
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10-08-2008, 08:57 PM
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Re: Poll: How many agree with this view of Salvati
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Originally Posted by mizpeh
I think you reworded what Keith said! To which I would completely agree. |
Funny. You may be right... it depends on how we read "the application of faith". Perhaps we are saying the exact same thing... I believe genuine Saving Faith is a heart thing that causes...
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"It is inhumane, in my opinion, to force people who have a genuine medical need for coffee to wait in line behind people who apparently view it as some kind of recreational activity." Dave Barry 2005
I am a firm believer in the Old Paths
Articles on such subjects as "The New Birth," will be accepted, whether they teach that the new birth takes place before baptism in water and Spirit, or that the new birth consists of baptism of water and Spirit. - THE PENTECOSTAL HERALD Dec. 1945
"It is doubtful if any Trinitarian Pentecostals have ever professed to believe in three gods, and Oneness Pentecostals should not claim that they do." - Daniel Segraves
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10-08-2008, 09:02 PM
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Re: Poll: How many agree with this view of Salvati
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Originally Posted by mizpeh
You're explanation reminds me of Acts 19.
Were the disciples that Paul met at Ephesus saved up until the point in which Paul led them to further "light"...explanation of the gospel of Jesus Christ? And does their example apply to those who now believe in Jesus but haven't heard that there be any Holy Ghost? |
Anyone have a straight forward answer to these questions?
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To be a servant of God, it will cost us our total commitment to God, and God alone. His burden must be our burden... Sis Alvear
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