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Old 10-14-2008, 08:09 AM
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Why Joseph's Genealology?

I was reading yesterday Matthew giving the generalology of Joseph. Why would he do that since Joseph had nothing to do with Jesus birth?

Only Mary and Holy Ghost formed the birth of Jesus so why Joseph lineage?
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Old 10-14-2008, 08:30 AM
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Re: Why Joseph's Genealology?

The reson is to show Jesus' Legal right [by law] to the Throne or Seat of David. Although Joseph is not Jesus' physical father he is by adoption or assumption.Therefore entitled to inherit the Seat of David through Joseph,also women normaly did not inherit positions of power.So Mary and Joseph both were of the seed of David ,and Jesus is then both Legally [ by Joseph ] and Physicaly [ by Mary ] the rightful heir.
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Old 10-14-2008, 08:34 AM
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Re: Why Joseph's Genealology?

Actually Joseph's bloodline is fairly significant.

Jehoiakim is found in the lineage of Joseph.

Jehoiakim cut the word of God with a pen knife and threw it in the fire.

Jehoiakim was told that he and his seed would be punished for this.

The lineage of Christ is a pure lineage traced all the way through Mary. Then, after Jesus was born, Joseph "knew" Mary and the rest of her children were mixed with a cursed bloodline leaving Jesus as the last remaining one in the pure unadulterated bloodline.

The lineage that went through Mary can only be carried on one way... through the children of Jesus Christ.

Jesus was not married and his only children are those who are born again of the water and the spirit.

God brought a lineage all the way down to Mary.

Mary gave birth to the Messiah and then that lineage was mingled with a cursed lineage thereby cutting it off leaving Jesus alone to carry on that lineage.

It was necessary to show Josephs lineage for this to be understood and seen.
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Old 10-14-2008, 08:42 AM
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Re: Why Joseph's Genealology?

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Actually Joseph's bloodline is fairly significant.

Jehoiakim is found in the lineage of Joseph.

Jehoiakim cut the word of God with a pen knife and threw it in the fire.

Jehoiakim was told that he and his seed would be punished for this.

The lineage of Christ is a pure lineage traced all the way through Mary. Then, after Jesus was born, Joseph "knew" Mary and the rest of her children were mixed with a cursed bloodline leaving Jesus as the last remaining one in the pure unadulterated bloodline.

The lineage that went through Mary can only be carried on one way... through the children of Jesus Christ.

Jesus was not married and his only children are those who are born again of the water and the spirit.

God brought a lineage all the way down to Mary.

Mary gave birth to the Messiah and then that lineage was mingled with a cursed lineage thereby cutting it off leaving Jesus alone to carry on that lineage.

It was necessary to show Josephs lineage for this to be understood and seen.
Good info.Thanks. So am I wrong?
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Old 10-14-2008, 08:43 AM
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Re: Why Joseph's Genealology?

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Actually Joseph's bloodline is fairly significant.

Jehoiakim is found in the lineage of Joseph.

Jehoiakim cut the word of God with a pen knife and threw it in the fire.

Jehoiakim was told that he and his seed would be punished for this.

The lineage of Christ is a pure lineage traced all the way through Mary. Then, after Jesus was born, Joseph "knew" Mary and the rest of her children were mixed with a cursed bloodline leaving Jesus as the last remaining one in the pure unadulterated bloodline.

The lineage that went through Mary can only be carried on one way... through the children of Jesus Christ.

Jesus was not married and his only children are those who are born again of the water and the spirit.

God brought a lineage all the way down to Mary.

Mary gave birth to the Messiah and then that lineage was mingled with a cursed lineage thereby cutting it off leaving Jesus alone to carry on that lineage.

It was necessary to show Josephs lineage for this to be understood and seen.
Bro. Digging4Truth,

This is my understanding also!

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Old 10-14-2008, 08:45 AM
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Good info.Thanks. So am I wrong?
I wouldn't say that...

I don't know what the legal requirements were per the law etc. I would think that Jesus' real father would hold more weight than Josephs bloodline but that is certainly a thought off the top of my head and nothing I can feel any certainty about.

But the presentation of the lineage doesn't have to have a singular purpose.
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I wouldn't say that...

I don't know what the legal requirements were per the law etc. I would think that Jesus' real father would hold more weight than Josephs bloodline but that is certainly a thought off the top of my head and nothing I can feel any certainty about.

But the presentation of the lineage doesn't have to have a singular purpose.
Good to know ,and your post was deep I'm going to go back and study it.
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Old 10-14-2008, 08:59 AM
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Good to know ,and your post was deep I'm going to go back and study it.
Well... lest anyone think that I came up with that on my own...

I ate lunch one afternoon with Brother Larry T Smith at the Subway restaurant there in El Campo Texas and he shared that with me.

That has been well over a decade ago and I have never forgotten it.

It demonstrates just how completely God is in control of those things that pertain to His Kingdom.

It is, indeed, a deep thought... One that has built faith in my heart. God is truly God and, as the song says, He has it all in control.
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Old 10-14-2008, 09:01 AM
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Re: Why Joseph's Genealology?

Here I think this might help someone.
http://www.crossroads.ca/unique/un020102.htm
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Re: Why Joseph's Genealology?

Scott,thanks for the link.
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