What Does Jesse Jackson Know That We Don't?

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Originally Posted by deacon blues

Israel has tried again and again to make peace with the Palestinians, even going to the point that Ehud Barak was going to give Arafat 98% of the land he wanted back in 2000. Instead, Arafat denied peace and the latest intifada began. Blaming Israel and the US for the plight of the Palestinians is evidence that you are listening to the liberal voices in politics today who are always on the wrong side of history. The FACTS of the Mid-East conflict point to one source of failure: the Arabs.

Wrong. The Palestinians don't want peace....they want their land back. There will be no peace without land. It would be like the UN taking your land and giving it to a Native American. You wouldn't want "peace", you'd want back what was yours. And the source of the failure isn't the Arabs (they're a side player in this drama by the way, I hope you're not confusing Arabs and Palestinians because that would make you look real uninformed)....the failure isn't the Arabs, it's the UN effort to partition a land and a people while expecting them to just smile and go along with it. The failure is with the UN's efforts to carve a nation out of Palestine at the request of radical Zionists.

You give the hypothetical of the Palestinain shop owner losing his store. Its hypothetical. We know for a fact that thousands of Jews have been slaughtered by Palestinian terrorists over the years. Innocent people going to work, going to school, going to the market, eating at a restaurant, attending a wedding. THEY TEACH THEIR CHILDREN TO HATE AND TO MURDER FROM THE EARLIEST OF YEARS.

I think you're putting the chicken before the egg. Our "hypothetical" shop keeper represents untold numbers of stories of Palestinians who lost all they had as a result of the UN's partition of their land and the Zionist authorities heavy handed tactics. They resorted to terrorism as a response to this injustice. Remember, "terrorism" is a poor man's warfare. Had the UN not partitioned their land and gave Israel permission to bulldoze entire sections of what was Palestinian land for generations, the Palestinians wouldn't have resorted to terrorism....because they would have no reason to.

Are there innocent Palestinians caught in the crossfire? Sure. But the injustices laid upon them are the result of corrupt leaders, radical Muslim theology, Arab brothers from other nations that DO NOT WANT THESE PEOPLE. Israel has been better to them than any nation in the Middle East. Israel has made concession after concession to find peace, and what do they get for it? More terrorism, more demands, more death, more broken promises.

Israel has been forced to make concessions...and think about it...the UN dropped them into hostile territory and took land from the Palestinians. If Israel wants to survive she's going to have to make concessions...but here's the reality of the situation. The Palestinians don't want concessions....they want Palestine back. Just like you'd want your home back if the UN took it from you and gave it to Native Americans.

The Palestinain authorities, religious leaders and political groups all live by the credo that Israel must be destroyed and cease to exist.

Sadly, it has progressed to this point. But it didn't begin with the Palestinians....it began with the UN's hair brained idea of partitioning Palestine and giving the land over at the Zionist's request.

I'm sorry, but this pity party for the Palestinian people is pathetic. We should feel sorry for the innocent men, women and children, but they are unfortunately the ones who are suffering because of THEIR LEADERS, THEIR BROTHERS, and THEIR RELIGION.

This isn't a pity party....it's an exercise in truth telling. If the UN took your home and your church and your business and gave the land over to the Native Americans I doubt you'd think this was all one big pity party.

Has Israel done everything perfectly? No. But their failures pale in comparison to the colossal and gargantuan failures of the Palestinians.

We agree here. The Palestinians were definitely not capable of handling this problem politically. But think about it....what if the whole world voted that America had to give large sections of land back to the Native Americans. I'm sure that some very radical groups with arise and bombings would begin.

As far as your accusation of blind theology: If modern Israel is not Biblical Israel what is it? If the establishment of modern Israel is not a fulfillment of God's promise to make them a nation again then what is it? If God's promise to Abraham that He would bless those that blessed him and cursed those that cursed him doesn't still apply Abraham and the Jews, why?

Show me chapter and verse of God's re-establishment of Israel. I assure you that it doesn't describe what we see over their today.

God's promise to Abraham that He would bless those that blessed him and curse those who curse him is rooted in God's plan to use his seed (the Messiah) to save the world....not in some Israeli nationalist garbage.