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Old 10-17-2008, 03:25 PM
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They are showing up to see what the attendence is, how many short dresses they see, who's on the platform with facial hair, blah, blah, blah.......

They need more fodder to preach about. Plus, they want to go away and say, "It's nothing like the old days."
We have a prophet who can read the hearts on these folks and he isn't even there. What could he do if he was there?
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Old 10-17-2008, 03:27 PM
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I think we were commanded less to hold some fort and more to simply carry the Gospel.

Sometimes the Gospel may find itself encumbered with all this fort holding.
Then Paul should not have used the term maintain or Jude contend if you had only been alive to instruct them.
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Old 10-17-2008, 03:30 PM
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Holding the fort is a defensive position.

I don't think that holding a fort is a position of faith. Going forth would be a position of faith.
The shield of faith is not for INCOMING darts? Forget the Fort and do your own thing I am staying with the Fort.
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Old 10-17-2008, 03:34 PM
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The shield of faith is not for INCOMING darts? Forget the Fort and do your own thing I am staying with the Fort.
The shield of faith is mobile and doesn't confine you to one position.

The shield of faith is for pushing forward in spite of the oncoming attack.

A fort is for hunkering down in one spot fighting for your life while the enemy enjoys full mobility.

But... as has been said... there isn't anything doctrinal that we can base this discussion on... in the end it is a battle of better ideas.

So... I will drop my end of the volley... your end will be up to you.
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Old 10-17-2008, 06:00 PM
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Bro. Alex, I know that you would like to have every organization done away with. I'm just curious as to whether the structure of the UPCI is so far oput of the norm...I even read the word "cult" like in the thread. I am genuinely curious about whether this is an anomoly.
The norm is NEVER the standard for the apostolic church.

If we wanted to be "normal" we'd be trinitarians, and we'd have popes or patriarchs or archbishops and "reverends".

-Bro. Alex
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Old 10-17-2008, 06:25 PM
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Uh, really?

So, the Oneness church "emerging" from the trinitarians wasn't a good thing? The evangelical church "emerging" from the Roman Catholic church wasn't a good thing?

No offense, but this "hold the fort" mentality is the damnable doctrine, here.

Brother Mike, the "book of Acts" church didn't emerge from the trinity church. It's the original.

I'm just not familiar with the term "emerging church". But the book of Revelation does say to "come out of her my people.......". Maybe we're still in the process of coming out.....
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Old 10-17-2008, 06:32 PM
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They voted in a resolution that allows all ministers to vote at the national and district level.
huge mistake. imho.
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Here you are. Sorry for the poor lighting and resolution. These were taken pretty much on the fly.
Hey, I was just kiddin' with you about the pictures, but thanks for playing along.
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huge mistake. imho.
Glad you said "IMHO." I disagree. I think all ministers who are paying dues should be allowed to vote on the national and district level. I do think, however, that only pastors should vote on the sectional level.
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Old 10-17-2008, 06:42 PM
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Brother Mike, the "book of Acts" church didn't emerge from the trinity church. It's the original.

I'm just not familiar with the term "emerging church". But the book of Revelation does say to "come out of her my people.......". Maybe we're still in the process of coming out.....
Right Sis. Sarah. Apostolics are not protestants.
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