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Old 11-15-2008, 08:35 PM
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Unless a miracle takes place, BO will be able to nominate probably at least 2 Supreme Court Justices during his presidency. This will insure that Roe v. Wade will remain protected by law for generations. If young enough the liberal justices he nominates will be able to serve 20-30 years. John Paul Stevens, a very liberal justice and the oldest will retire soon I am sure. Ruth Bader Ginsburg another liberal is the next eldest and may also retire during BO's presidency.

It's a sad day for abortion foes. How so many Americans and Christians can cloe their eyes to the 70 million babies slaughtered over the past 26 years is perplexing. Its so engrained into our culture we act as though it is no big deal.

We had a chance to finally get a conservative majority and we lost it with the election of BO. My only hope is he nominates someone he thinks is liberal and pro abortion only to find out they are not. It has happened to several GOP presidents only vice versa.
Churches need to begin providing ministry to women in unwanted or crisis pregnancies. Christians need to begin supporting social initiatives aimed at reducing the rate of unplanned pregnancies and that assist women who feel they have little choice but to abort.

Frankly, this is a GREAT development. Because instead of feeling good about voting Republican we're being forced to DO SOMETHING to help women who are thinking about an abortion and those who may have already had an abortion.

Interesting note here....when jobs dry up, there's no health insurance, and families are approaching the financial breaking point....they are more likely to choose to abort an unplanned pregnancy. We need to get to work and stop thinking we've done our duty by merely voting Republican.
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Old 11-15-2008, 09:04 PM
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Churches need to begin providing ministry to women in unwanted or crisis pregnancies. Christians need to begin supporting social initiatives aimed at reducing the rate of unplanned pregnancies and that assist women who feel they have little choice but to abort.

Frankly, this is a GREAT development. Because instead of feeling good about voting Republican we're being forced to DO SOMETHING to help women who are thinking about an abortion and those who may have already had an abortion.

Interesting note here....when jobs dry up, there's no health insurance, and families are approaching the financial breaking point....they are more likely to choose to abort an unplanned pregnancy. We need to get to work and stop thinking we've done our duty by merely voting Republican.
While I do agree we should and must do what we can to support unwed mothers and unwanted children, I would never place the blame of killing the child on anyone except the killer, and those who hired the hit man.

Our response and rejection of the killing should be the same - whether they are killing two year olds in Canada, adults in Rwanda, or babies in the womb in the USA. The defenseless unborn deserve the utmost protection by law.

I hear their screams.
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Old 11-15-2008, 10:36 PM
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Churches need to begin providing ministry to women in unwanted or crisis pregnancies. Christians need to begin supporting social initiatives aimed at reducing the rate of unplanned pregnancies and that assist women who feel they have little choice but to abort.

We need to get to work and stop thinking we've done our duty by merely voting Republican.
The truth of the matter is Christians and churches ARE doing much to minister to women with unwanted pregnancies far more than the liberal abortion advocate groups are and theyey have for may years.

A significant percentage of orphanages are Christian operated. In my hometown there was a Christian organization called "Heartbeats" that provided proactive abstinence education for teens, counseling and abortion alternatives for women with unwanted pregnancies, counseling for women who had abortions to deal with the trauma and guilt as well as counseling for the fathers of aborted babies who had no say in whether their child was murdered or not. A similar ministry is here where we live called "Life Choices". I have met some of the directors of that group and we are looking for ways to partner with them.

The diversion of "the church isn't doing enough" does not change the fact that although R v. W hasn't been overturned, its been a plank in the GOP platform to overturn it for three decades now. Official Democrat policy is to preserve legalized abortions and has been since its inception. Voting Republican isn't a sure fire way to end abortions, but voting Democrat is almost a 100% surety to keep them legal.

We, the church, could do more for sure, but the church is doing much to provide ministry to those most affected by unwanted pregnancies.

My sister has a barren womb. She does however have three beautiful children all adopted from women who could've chosen abortion but each one carried the baby to term, gave birth and then gave the child to my sister and her husband. Their eldest son is a hardworking, 20 year old who is in love and is great with his money and wants to get married next year. Very talented too. The other son is 12 and is a sharp cookie. He loves to hunt and fish with my dad. The 6 year old is a daughter and she is as pretty as can be with brilliant blue eyes. None of us could stand the thought to not have of them in our family. They are each one of us.

I wonder how many stories we'll never know because someone decided to kill the life of a promising little boy or girl because they couldn't afford to raise the child or b/c they didn't want to be bothered. Sad to think of my nephews and neice as dead.
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... I would never place the blame of killing the child on anyone except the killer, and those who hired the hit man.
I think most Christian values voters would disagree with you. They blame every liberal politician who doesn't support anti-abortion justices to the Supreme Court.
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Old 11-16-2008, 12:19 AM
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Well, All the Obama supporters should be rejoicing more abortions YEEEEA!!!

This is what they voted for and what they want because they knew it
when they pulled the lever - the blood's on their hands
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Old 11-16-2008, 06:59 AM
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I think most Christian values voters would disagree with you. They blame every liberal politician who doesn't support anti-abortion justices to the Supreme Court.
And perhaps while agreeing with me... do these "liberals" believe in paying the hit man? The majority of abortions are paid for - at least in part - by the Government.
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Old 11-17-2008, 07:17 AM
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But as for these abortion doctors, I'd hate to be in their shoes on Judgment Day. Their judgment might seem to be slow in coming, but it's coming.
First let me say I along with most am against abortion. Having said that;
Br TR do you believe the sin of murder is more significant than a lie in Gods eyes? Sin is sin.
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Old 11-17-2008, 07:30 AM
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Abortion would have remained legal for generations anyway and it is a pipe dream to think that any of these so called pro life candidates everybody drools over would have every changed that.

They have not in the past.
They will not in the future.

They just know the songs you like and they sing them well.

Until people wake up and vote in some real change then no real change is going to happen.

But they will be happy to perform the song and dance for you each and ever election cycle for decades on end since all the "pro life" folks require is election time tickling of the ears. They don't require real action... maybe a little token movement here and there... but with all of the pomp & circumstance pro lifers don't require an end to abortion... they simply require that someone say they are on their side with their words even if their actions speak volumes otherwise.
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Old 11-17-2008, 07:43 AM
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Abortion would have remained legal for generations anyway and it is a pipe dream to think that any of these so called pro life candidates everybody drools over would have every changed that.

They have not in the past.
They will not in the future.

They just know the songs you like and they sing them well.

Until people wake up and vote in some real change then no real change is going to happen.

But they will be happy to perform the song and dance for you each and ever election cycle for decades on end since all the "pro life" folks require is election time tickling of the ears. They don't require real action... maybe a little token movement here and there... but with all of the pomp & circumstance pro lifers don't require an end to abortion... they simply require that someone say they are on their side with their words even if their actions speak volumes otherwise.
Some are not smart enough to see that. If the GOP HAD repealed Roe V Wade they would have nothing to draw the right wingers.

Republican leaders really don't believe in small government ( they have proven that) they just want to do away with things that will make the everyday Americans life better, just to line their big business friends pockets.
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Old 11-17-2008, 07:45 AM
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some are not smart enough to see that. If the gop had repealed roe v wade they would have nothing to draw the right wingers.

Republican leaders really don't believe in small government ( they have proven that)
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