JAKES Announces New CBS Talk show in '09!!!

[Pastor Keith]

Originally Posted by SecretWarrior

Ask yourself, would you want a pastor like T.D. Jakes who spends more time in Hollywood and less time at your church?

Either he's called to pastor a church and preach the gospel or seek fame as a TV celebrity.I'll just quote the scripture, "Let everyman abide in the calling wherewith he was called"!.


The bible warns sternly about avoiding getting entangled in th affairs of this life. What has happened, Jakes and others have used outside the box evangelism as an excuse for worldly behavior.

I perceive that art a prophet! Very good, to the point post!

[Weary Pilgrim]

Originally Posted by SecretWarrior

Ask yourself, would you want a pastor like T.D. Jakes who spends more time in Hollywood and less time at your church?

Either he's called to pastor a church and preach the gospel or seek fame as a TV celebrity.I'll just quote the scripture, "Let everyman abide in the calling wherewith he was called"!.


The bible warns sternly about avoiding getting entangled in th affairs of this life. What has happened, Jakes and others have used outside the box evangelism as an excuse for worldly behavior.

Very well stated!

Thanks for posting that.

[Praxeas]

Our nation needs less glitz and flash, less bling bling and more Jesus Christ. Paula tried the talk show thing too. We need to desparately drop the politics and just be Christians and reach our world. We need to stop being tainted with the same politico divisions, thirst for power,wealth and fame and let them see Jesus.

We need to put an end to the cult of personality and "Ministries".

I never see in the bible Paul or anyone else going on and on about THEIR ministries. You think Paul went town to town with a parade and a banner over his head that read "Apostle Paul Ministries"?????

[Jermyn Davidson]

Originally Posted by SecretWarrior

Ask yourself, would you want a pastor like T.D. Jakes who spends more time in Hollywood and less time at your church?

Either he's called to pastor a church and preach the gospel or seek fame as a TV celebrity.I'll just quote the scripture, "Let everyman abide in the calling wherewith he was called"!.


The bible warns sternly about avoiding getting entangled in th affairs of this life. What has happened, Jakes and others have used outside the box evangelism as an excuse for worldly behavior.

Ok, back up your claims. The word "behavior" implies something that is continuous, not just a one time incident.

Please back up your assertion that Bishop Jakes is "worldly".

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by Praxeas

Our nation needs less glitz and flash, less bling bling and more Jesus Christ. Paula tried the talk show thing too. We need to desparately drop the politics and just be Christians and reach our world. We need to stop being tainted with the same politico divisions, thirst for power,wealth and fame and let them see Jesus.

We need to put an end to the cult of personality and "Ministries".

I never see in the bible Paul or anyone else going on and on about THEIR ministries. You think Paul went town to town with a parade and a banner over his head that read "Apostle Paul Ministries"?????

Amen!!!

[SecretWarrior]

Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson

Ok, back up your claims. The word "behavior" implies something that is continuous, not just a one time incident.

Please back up your assertion that Bishop Jakes is "worldly".

All this is, is christian celebrity-ism that has polluted ministry. I don't believe God is in a million miles of Jakes being a T.V. host.

The dominion theory is at the base of these choices made by men and women called to preach the gospel and hated by all nations for his name sake. Dominion Theory (taking over the culture for Christ) is a false teaching that allows believers to make secular decisions that are adverse to the word of God. Jake's popularity with the world is a sign of corrosion.

[Michael Phelps]

Originally Posted by PraiseHymn

Ooo, your really drinking the Jakes cool-aid. Come on now, you know good and well its all about the MONEY and being recognized more in a secular arena. Spiritual? I think not. When I lived in Dallas I attended his church numerous times and his entire congregation is CARNAL! The only thing I liked was that for a "mega church" they really allowed God to come in and take control of the services (that IS when the Lord decided to show up...at times service could be 3 to 3.5 hours long) but after being approached from his members wanting to basically "beat me down" for commenting on him wearing an earring out side of the pulpit, I knew good and well that true change was not coming to "the potters house" lest I forget to inform you of the people I ran into in the streets who went there faithfully and still clubed, drank and curesed everyone out on there secular jobs......pulease...........Inspirational Speaker/Motivator...YES....oracle of God...Mmmmm, NO!

I find these two statements to be incongruous.

If the ENTIRE congregation was carnal (Which I find EXTREMELY hard to believe) how could they let the Lord show up and take control of the services?

[A_PoMo]

Originally Posted by AtlantaBishop

I have been a personal friend and guest of Bishop Jakes many times for many years. I knew him before he owned his own tape duplicating equipment and before he owned a video camera. My sons and I have eaten at his table in many places around the nation for breakfast, lunch, dinner and midnight snaks and I can promise you that - One thing that Bishop Jakes is NOT - Is ARROGANT! He is very CONFIDENT in God and in himself and I admire that incredibly! He is a very gifted and powerful man of God.

I dunno, maybe he's not arrogant in reality, but he comes across as arrogant and a man as smart as him should realize that (and I think Jakes is brilliant). I think he's smart enough to realize how he comes across and thus conclude that this is an image he wishes to project. My brother thinks it's his way of projecting "a strong, successful black man" image which could be inspirational in the black culture. I dunno, I'm not black so I can't comment on that. Even so, I don't think Jesus would project that sort of image...he was humble and meek and unassuming. Paul was too. I think Jakes has visions of granduer and would like to be the next MLK type figure that Jackson, Sharpton, et al attempted to assume and have failed at miserably, imo.

Part of my opinion is based on his preaching style where he puffs out his chest and struts around with this look of what I'm sure some people would say is resoluteness, but to me looks like stubborn arrogance. And for awhile there he had a lackey follow him around with a towel to wipe his sweaty face while he preached. The poor guy would follow him around all over the auditorium and served as a glorified towel boy.

Jakes is a great preacher and I've preached a couple of if his sermons myself (and gave him full and complete credit, btw). But for this white guy he comes across as full of himself and arrogant and flamboyant. Much like the people on TBN. He fits in there fairly well, imo.

[ManOfWord]

Well, I have some folks who attend NLC who club & cuss and some who drink and some who are mean to their spouse etc. However, most folks don't do that. We'll see if Jakes is outside of his calling or not in due time. That's kind of like what Gamaliel said, isn't it?

[Jack Shephard]

Originally Posted by SecretWarrior

Ask yourself, would you want a pastor like T.D. Jakes who spends more time in Hollywood and less time at your church?

Either he's called to pastor a church and preach the gospel or seek fame as a TV celebrity.I'll just quote the scripture, "Let everyman abide in the calling wherewith he was called"!.


The bible warns sternly about avoiding getting entangled in th affairs of this life. What has happened, Jakes and others have used outside the box evangelism as an excuse for worldly behavior.

Even though the Bishop does a lot of things around the world how is this that different than a pastor working a regular job. It is not too awful different, IMO.