Five fold ministry???? Who are they at your Church?

[Coonskinner]

James, the Lord's brother was an Apostle.

He was not one of the original 12.




Gal 1:19 But other of the apostles saw I none, save James the Lord's brother.

[Joelel]

My question is, how can there be a church assemblies with out the Apostles and Prophets because there is no foundation?The Apostles and Prophets are the foundation of the assemblies and Jesus the chief corner stone.We are the house of God,how can a house be built without a foundation ? The Apostles started the church assemblies and then appointed Bishops.

Tit.1
[5] For this cause left I thee in Crete, that thou shouldest set in order the things that are wanting, and ordain elders in every city, as I had appointed thee:

Eph.2
[20] And are built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ himself being the chief corner stone;[21] In whom all the building fitly framed together groweth unto an holy temple in the Lord:
[22] In whom ye also are builded together for an habitation of God through the Spirit.

[Coonskinner]

Another false premise blown out of the saddle.

[COOPER]

Originally Posted by Coonskinner

Act 14:13 Then the priest of Jupiter, which was before their city, brought oxen and garlands unto the gates, and would have done sacrifice with the people.


Act 14:14 [Which] when the apostles, Barnabas and Paul, heard [of], they rent their clothes, and ran in among the people, crying out,

barnabas was an apostle.

What then Exactly is an Apostle???

Is he a missionary????

[COOPER]

Originally Posted by Joelel

My question is, how can there be a church assemblies with out the Apostles and Prophets because there is no foundation?The Apostles and Prophets are the foundation of the assemblies and Jesus the chief corner stone.We are the house of God,how can a house be built without a foundation ? The Apostles started the church assemblies and then appointed Bishops.

Tit.1
[5] For this cause left I thee in Crete, that thou shouldest set in order the things that are wanting, and ordain elders in every city, as I had appointed thee:

Eph.2
[20] And are built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ himself being the chief corner stone;[21] In whom all the building fitly framed together groweth unto an holy temple in the Lord:
[22] In whom ye also are builded together for an habitation of God through the Spirit.

Is the duty of an Apostle missionary????

Like a church starter and ground breaker?

[COOPER]

Originally Posted by Coonskinner

Another false premise blown out of the saddle.

False Premise???

I hate your remarks Coon. I have no respect for you.

You are an offensive man.

I am learning something that I have never really looked into.

Thank you for your info.

I do not claim I knew all there is about the Apostle role.

Thats why I started this thread.

I just do not think of Barnabas As "Apostle Barnabas"

When I think Apostles I think of the Twelve.

[COOPER]

Originally Posted by Coonskinner
Another false premise blown out of the

Five fold ministry???? Who are they at your Church?

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Where is the Rank and Order of the Five Fold Ministers????

Why are the Pastors recieving tithe and not the others????

Why is not this office shared as a whole????

Originally Posted by mfblume

Could be, depending upon the size.

I think that it is intended for each local assembly.

Those gifted to oversee several churches.

I disagree. I think the apostles of Ephesians 4:11 are acutally missionaries (which, of course, means only men - while women may be working in the mission field, they can only assist the apostles much the way various women assisted Paul). Apostles go to a place, preach the gospel, establish local churches, install and train the leadership, then go on to another place.

Those with the gift and a multitude of signs and wonders, used in the prophetic word. Unfortunately there are too many non-prophet organizations.

I think we can look to Agabus as an example of someone in the ministry of prophet, likewise the prophets in Antioch (not Phillip's daughters) who with the teachers were praying and fasting when the Holy Ghost told them to set apart Paul and Barnabas for apostolic work.

Originally Posted by Steve Epley

I think a clue is in Acts 13 it says there were prophets and teachers at Antioch now if there were prophets and teachers everywhere then why is it noted here?

It is noted there because the context refers specifically to an event that occurred in the Antioch church.

Originally Posted by Coonskinner

James, the Lord's brother was an Apostle.

He was not one of the original 12.




Gal 1:19 But other of the apostles saw I none, save James the Lord's brother.

True, he was not one of the original 12. He also appears to have been the bishop or overseeing elder (aka pastor) of the Jerusalem church.