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11-29-2008, 09:29 PM
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Re: Can We Become Too Apostolic
Now the formula doesn't matter because of someone's view of baptism? I'm positive the man standing 20 feet below and about 15-30 away didn't have opportunity to ask the person in the tank how they wanted to be baptized. The minister asked to do the honors of saying the baptismal catechism. The preacher said the name of Jesus at the end of his declaration.
Technically he is a three stepper. Just not your definition.
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Originally Posted by Michael Phelps
Here is RP's statement of faith, directly from his website:
These three steps are essential to salvation:
REPENT: to repent means to turn around, to go in a new direction.
What do we need to turn from? We need to turn form our life-style of sin and separation from God. We need to turn from living our lives our own way and from being our own god.
What do we turn to? We turn to God who loves and cares for us. We turn to faith in Jesus Christ as our Savior.
BELIEVE: What is it that we must believe? We are told in the Bible we must believe that not only did Jesus shed His blood and die for us, but that he rose again from the dead and is alive today.
That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God have raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation (Romans 10:9-10)
CONFESS: With the mouth confession is made unto salvation. What is it that we say? We must say what we believe—that Jesus is our Savior. We must say what the Bible says about us—that God is our Father and we have become His children.
But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name (John 1:12).
Throughout the ages mankind has sought eternal life, never understanding that we are already eternal beings, destined to live forever somewhere. To live forever in a state of separation from God is a frightening thought. You can make sure that you are right with God by turning to Him and praying this prayer:
“God, I am a sinner in need of a Savior. I REPENT, and I ask you to forgive me of all my sin.
“I BELIEVE that Jesus Christ is your Son, that He shed His blood so I might be forgiven, that He rose again from the dead, and He is coming back again.
“I CONFESS Him now as my Savior. I will live for you as you show me how. Amen.”
By believing in Jesus Christ and receiving Him as your Savior, you will turn your life in a new direction. You can be at peace with God knowing you will live forever with Him.
THis coincides with what his associate minister told me when I spoke on the phone - they believe baptism is a subsequent act of salvation, so they won't haggle over the formula.
WHen I first started reading this statement of faith, I thought RP was a three stepper!!!!!!!!!!! |
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11-29-2008, 10:32 PM
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Re: Can We Become Too Apostolic?
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It sure wasn't me, I can't hit them high notes, I'm an alto.  |
Please post yer weight.
Thank you in advance. 
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Articles on such subjects as "The New Birth," will be accepted, whether they teach that the new birth takes place before baptism in water and Spirit, or that the new birth consists of baptism of water and Spirit. - THE PENTECOSTAL HERALD Dec. 1945
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11-29-2008, 11:24 PM
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Re: Can We Become Too Apostolic?
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Please post yer weight.
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Why?
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If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.
2 Chronicles 7:14 KJV
He hath shewed thee, O man, what is good; and what doth the LORD require of thee, but to do justly, and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with thy God? Micah 6:8 KJV
Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is. 1 John 3:2 KJV
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11-30-2008, 07:48 AM
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Re: Can We Become Too Apostolic?
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Why?
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Different weights, make different sounds.......... 
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I AM the VOICE of REASON and SANITY around here! 
I am now on FB and on the AFF's on FB! 
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11-30-2008, 08:04 AM
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Re: Can We Become Too Apostolic?
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Nah, it ain't over, the lady hasn't sung yet.  |
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Noooooooooooo!
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OH, just checking your qualifications.
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"It is inhumane, in my opinion, to force people who have a genuine medical need for coffee to wait in line behind people who apparently view it as some kind of recreational activity." Dave Barry 2005
I am a firm believer in the Old Paths
Articles on such subjects as "The New Birth," will be accepted, whether they teach that the new birth takes place before baptism in water and Spirit, or that the new birth consists of baptism of water and Spirit. - THE PENTECOSTAL HERALD Dec. 1945
"It is doubtful if any Trinitarian Pentecostals have ever professed to believe in three gods, and Oneness Pentecostals should not claim that they do." - Daniel Segraves
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11-30-2008, 08:05 AM
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Re: Can We Become Too Apostolic?
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Different weights, make different sounds..........
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If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.
2 Chronicles 7:14 KJV
He hath shewed thee, O man, what is good; and what doth the LORD require of thee, but to do justly, and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with thy God? Micah 6:8 KJV
Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is. 1 John 3:2 KJV
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11-30-2008, 08:07 AM
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Re: Can We Become Too Apostolic?
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hehehehe
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Rom.8:38,39-For I am convinced that neither death nor life, neither angels nor demons, neither the present nor the future, nor any powers, neither heigth nor depth, nor anything else in all creation, will be able to seperate us from the love of God that is in Christ Jesus our Lord.
I AM the VOICE of REASON and SANITY around here!
I am now on FB and on the AFF's on FB!
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11-30-2008, 08:10 AM
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Forever Loved Admin
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Re: Can We Become Too Apostolic?
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OH, just checking your qualifications. |
I promise I am not fat.
But I am not posting my weight. Haven't you read my post where my doctor wants me to gain weight? I did finally get to 100 lbs. and my doctor was very happy.
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If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.
2 Chronicles 7:14 KJV
He hath shewed thee, O man, what is good; and what doth the LORD require of thee, but to do justly, and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with thy God? Micah 6:8 KJV
Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is. 1 John 3:2 KJV
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11-30-2008, 09:25 AM
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Re: Can We Become Too Apostolic?
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I promise I am not fat.
But I am not posting my weight. Haven't you read my post where my doctor wants me to gain weight? I did finally get to 100 lbs. and my doctor was very happy. |
OK You definitely don't qualify to sing the final stanza!
Might look into a part in the "Valley of Bones" musical though. 
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"It is inhumane, in my opinion, to force people who have a genuine medical need for coffee to wait in line behind people who apparently view it as some kind of recreational activity." Dave Barry 2005
I am a firm believer in the Old Paths
Articles on such subjects as "The New Birth," will be accepted, whether they teach that the new birth takes place before baptism in water and Spirit, or that the new birth consists of baptism of water and Spirit. - THE PENTECOSTAL HERALD Dec. 1945
"It is doubtful if any Trinitarian Pentecostals have ever professed to believe in three gods, and Oneness Pentecostals should not claim that they do." - Daniel Segraves
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11-30-2008, 09:29 AM
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Re: Can We Become Too Apostolic?
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Originally Posted by Stephen Hoover
OK You definitely don't qualify to sing the final stanza!
Might look into a part in the "Valley of Bones" musical though. |
 
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