Baptist? I thought their dad was a UPC preacher....
Wiki sez so:
"...Jared and Caleb were born in Tennessee, while Matthew and Nathan were born in Oklahoma. Matthew is the three brothers' cousin and their step brother, Owen plant. The brothers and Matthew spent much of their youth travelling around the South with their father, Leon, a traveling United Pentecostal Church preacher and their mother, who taught them when they were not in school. According to Rolling Stone magazine, "While Leon preached at churches and tent revivals throughout the Deep South, the boys attended and were occasionally enlisted to bang on some drums. They were home-schooled or enrolled in small parochial schools. Except for a five-year stretch when they settled in Jackson, Tennessee, the Followills spent their childhoods driving through the South, camping for a week or two wherever Leon was scheduled to preach....""
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I used to tour with them. Their dad was a Baptist preacher, but left the ministry. I don't recommend their music...
Their music is actually very good, from a purely secular point of view--but I wouldn't recommend it either, for a Christian.
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"God, send me anywhere, only go with me. Lay any burden on me, only sustain me. And sever any tie in my heart except the tie that binds my heart to Yours."
--David Livingstone
"To see no being, not God’s or any, but you also go thither,
To see no possession but you may possess it—enjoying all without labor or purchase—
abstracting the feast, yet not abstracting one particle of it;…."
--Walt Whitman, Leaves of Grass, Song of the Open Road
Baptist? I thought their dad was a UPC preacher....
Wiki sez so:
"...Jared and Caleb were born in Tennessee, while Matthew and Nathan were born in Oklahoma. Matthew is the three brothers' cousin and their step brother, Owen plant. The brothers and Matthew spent much of their youth travelling around the South with their father, Leon, a traveling United Pentecostal Church preacher and their mother, who taught them when they were not in school. According to Rolling Stone magazine, "While Leon preached at churches and tent revivals throughout the Deep South, the boys attended and were occasionally enlisted to bang on some drums. They were home-schooled or enrolled in small parochial schools. Except for a five-year stretch when they settled in Jackson, Tennessee, the Followills spent their childhoods driving through the South, camping for a week or two wherever Leon was scheduled to preach....""
He was UPC and they pastored very close to where we live.
Is it even worth it? Yes, all denominations have issues. Why in the world is that the fall back anytime a legitimate issues about the UPC/Oneness Pentecostalism is mentioned? This is getting really old. You guys know the issues exist but instead attack those who discuss them.
OLD? You know whats old? All the finger pointing any time someone in the UPCI or similar group fails God. The finger pointing at the org, the leaders of the org, the pastor, the teachings, the practices, etc., rather than pointing the finger at the individual that has a free will of their own to choose.
Its really really old actually. Been happening since the garden. Adam pointed at the woman, the woman pointed at the serpent, and they all suffered the consequences. But it still all came down to personal choice for both Adam and Eve. I guess they could have blamed God for putting that stupid tree in the garden...
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OLD? You know whats old? All the finger pointing any time someone in the UPCI or similar group fails God. The finger pointing at the org, the leaders of the org, the pastor, the teachings, the practices, etc., rather than pointing the finger at the individual that has a free will of their own to choose.
Its really really old actually. Been happening since the garden. Adam pointed at the woman, the woman pointed at the serpent, and they all suffered the consequences. But it still all came down to personal choice for both Adam and Eve. I guess they could have blamed God for putting that stupid tree in the garden...
I think delta and I have both had the same experience when it comes to getting any honest question answered. I am not pointing fingers but it has seemed if you question anything you get blasted.
I think delta and I have both had the same experience when it comes to getting any honest question answered. I am not pointing fingers but it has seemed if you question anything you get blasted.
aak, I am all for discourse, but what I read here went way beyond questions being asked. There were direct, wild, and illogical statements made that flew in the face of many people's experiences. I hope I have not offended you in this thread, and I personally don't mind answering any question.
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aak, I am all for discourse, but what I read here went way beyond questions being asked. There were direct, wild, and illogical statements made that flew in the face of many people's experiences. I hope I have not offended you in this thread, and I personally don't mind answering any question.
OLD? You know whats old? All the finger pointing any time someone in the UPCI or similar group fails God. The finger pointing at the org, the leaders of the org, the pastor, the teachings, the practices, etc., rather than pointing the finger at the individual that has a free will of their own to choose.
Its really really old actually. Been happening since the garden. Adam pointed at the woman, the woman pointed at the serpent, and they all suffered the consequences. But it still all came down to personal choice for both Adam and Eve. I guess they could have blamed God for putting that stupid tree in the garden...
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Originally Posted by tstew
aak, I am all for discourse, but what I read here went way beyond questions being asked. There were direct, wild, and illogical statements made that flew in the face of many people's experiences. I hope I have not offended you in this thread, and I personally don't mind answering any question.
Can you guys please give me an example of the wild allegations made by myself or AAK? We added to the discussion a few issues that we deemed very specific to Pentecostalism and the Oneness movement and possible reasons why so many young folks are leaving. We all know that the youth of every other denomination are leaving also but I am not so sure that they are leaving for the same reasons.
If you want to take issue with these then please do so but don't rant and rave about how we are attacking. Almost 100% of all that I talk to that leave the UPC have the same issues with the out of control altar calls and most of them consider it just a bunch of hype and some even question if God is even real after seeing these displays.
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