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Old 12-04-2008, 05:09 PM
inquisitiveguy inquisitiveguy is offline
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Re: What is man? Why are we like we are?

Hello HS,
Thank you for your response here.
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So what does man have that God wants, desires or needs? What is there lacking in God that only man can provide and required God to make covenants (binding agreements in blood, from Adam to Abraham to Moses to Christ) to purchase? In searching through the scriptures, the one reoccurring theme is that God desired the hearts of men.
I would agree with 'want' and 'desires' but not so much 'needs' or 'lacks'. I would agree that God desires the hearts of men though - definitely. If HE didn't HE would save us.
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The one thing God lacked was the heart (love and worship) of an independent being. A being who would freely seek after an unbroken union with Him. A being who would willing set aside himself and all of his wants, needs and desires in order to establish and maintain a oneness unity with the creator of the universe (John 17:6-26) and also a willingness to establish a like unity with those of like heart.
So your answer to 'what is man' seems to be an independent being to seeks unity with God. I'll accept that as an adequate response. Thank you.

What I was hoping for though is a critique of my thoughts that I presented. Your response doesn't cover the 'why are we like we are' portion of the thread. Theoritically HE could have created any type of sentient being to fellowship - why us humans? I'm wanting to get other people's thoughts concerning this to see if my main idea is in line completely with the Bible. If God has parts and one is a human consciousness, then that answers both questions rather well.

About your 'PS':
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I submit that if God did not have these things He would be unable to know, understand, or meet the desires, wants, or needs of His creation, man. Further, this lack in His own character would indicate three deficiencies in His own nature and diminish His deity and make Him less than perfect (complete and whole).
I haven't thought about this until you brought it up but here are some quick thoughts. For a sentient being (God and everyone else) there are two basic categories: 'IS' and 'IS NOT'. Our 'needs' fall in the 'IS NOT' category. What we know of God is that HE IS. Just because HE IS doesn't mean that HE can't recognize what 'IS NOT'. So since HE can recognize 'IS NOT' - HE can recognize our needs even though HE doesn't actually have any HIMSELF.

At least that is my initial thought on that. It doesn't bother me either way since God is God.

If you could however look over my original thread and give me your thoughts on mine I would appreciate it.

God bless
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