Road Rage at it Best - Good Grief!

[Mike Williamson]

Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson

I think the guy got what he had comin' to him.

I did not know him, but inconsiderate drivers are NOT usually first time offenders.

They drive like they're stupid. I am glad he wasn't killed-- which very well could have happened.

Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson

Let me make it clear:

I have a strong dislike for idiot drivers-- especially those who cause are almost cause harm to other drivers.

The dumb dumb that got shot for pulling out in front of someone, causing that someone to go off of the road (maybe eve nearly wrecked), the dummy that caused all of that got what he had coming to him.

I can almost guarantee that was NOT his first time being inconsiderate.

He has reaped what he has no doubt sowed and I am glad for the God's Mercy in sparing the lives of the one who almost went off the road and the one who was shot.



How different would this thread be if it was your relative who was driven off the road and that person's vehicle flipped over-- all because someone else was an idiot!!!

The guy who was shot will find no pity from me-- not one iota!

I am glad he is alive.

wow...so you're saying that God was happy he got shot? I mean, he got what he had coming to him, right? That means the shooting was just. If he'd been killed, would he still have gotten what he had coming to him?

It's amazing how the forgiven can be so unforgiving.

I'm sure you've never done anything inconsiderate or idiotic while driving.

[Mike Williamson]

Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson

Funny!

Serious response is I'm not sure. I don't have all the answers, I only have opinions.

Maybe God will use the U.S. court system to mete out His justice.

The main thing for me is that I DO UNDERSTAND how a person can do what he did-- don't agree with it, but I am empathetic.

So you don't agree with giving someone what they deserve? You think it was fair that the guy got shot for pulling out in front of someone. I don't want to ask what you think would be fair retribution if the guy had caused an accident...

[Jermyn Davidson]

Originally Posted by Mike Williamson

wow...so you're saying that God was happy he got shot? I mean, he got what he had coming to him, right? That means the shooting was just. If he'd been killed, would he still have gotten what he had coming to him?

It's amazing how the forgiven can be so unforgiving.

I'm sure you've never done anything inconsiderate or idiotic while driving.

It's amazing that hardly anyone expresses that line of thought when discussing folks deemed as "criminals". The shooter hasn't even been caught, has not gone to trial and has not been convicted of anything. However, he has been referred to as the "criminal" in this thread.

The shooter, like most folks deemed to be "criminals" and "threats" are usually vilified and demonized, before conviction and too often, for too long after the conviction.

This fact negates fairness-- especially in this case.

[Cindy]

Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson

It's amazing that hardly anyone expresses that line of thought when discussing folks deemed as "criminals". The shooter hasn't even been caught, has not gone to trial and has not been convicted of anything. However, he has been referred to as the "criminal" in this thread.

The shooter, like most folks deemed to be "criminals" and "threats" are usually vilified and demonized.

Do you own a gun?

[Jermyn Davidson]

Originally Posted by Mike Williamson

1) So you don't agree with giving someone what they deserve? 2) You think it was fair that the guy got shot for pulling out in front of someone. 3) I don't want to ask what you think would be fair retribution if the guy had caused an accident...

1) As a Christian, usually when I am offended, I do not reward the offense with another offense. If I wasn't saved, I would likely attempt to deliver retribution myself-- still don't think I'd shoot someone in this scenario.

2) You're simplifying it too much. The idiot driver's actions could have caused death. His victim's vehicle was forced off the road. Will incarcerating the shooter address this?

3) If his actions had caused death to one of your loved ones, would any punishment be fair? Would his punishment bring back your loved one who died senselessly because your car was forced off the road and you hit a tree?


There is nothing fair about the whole thing. Fairness would not be added by locking this good citizen up who got fed up with idiot drivers.

[Jermyn Davidson]

Originally Posted by cneasttx

Do you own a gun?

Not yet, Cindy. I am interested in buying a taser for self defense, but that is a luxury item. I don't have luxury money right now.

[Jermyn Davidson]

Under Mississippi law, let's see how "justice" would not be all that just after all.


For the idiot driver who drove the guy off the road, Mississippi would prescribe:

Assault, Aggravated - Manifesting Extreme Indifference to Human Life - Felony
- 97-3-7 (2)(a)
Maximum: 1 year in County Jail or 20 years plus $10,000
No Minimum



Now granted, how many really think that the idiot driver would be charged under this statute? I'd say none of us do-- regardless if he had a driver's record that reflected just how much of an idiot he may be.


Maybe he could be charged under this statute and issued the prescribed punishment:


Accident, Leaving Scene, (Attended Vehicle, 63-3-401 through 63-3-405 )
Where personal injury or death involved
Minimum Penality: $100 and/or 30 days
Maximum: $5,000 and/or 1 year
Where only property damage involved
1st offense - $100 or 10 days
2nd offense within 1 year - $200 and/or 20 days
3rd offense within 1 year - $500 and/or 6 months



Even though his actions reflect that he left the scene, without regard to damage to property, without regard to injury to human life, how much do you want to bet that the idiot driver won't be charged with this either?

He won't be charged with anything, even though his actions are at the root of this whole mess!

[Mike Williamson]

Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson

It's amazing that hardly anyone expresses that line of thought when discussing folks deemed as "criminals". The shooter hasn't even been caught, has not gone to trial and has not been convicted of anything. However, he has been referred to as the "criminal" in this thread.

The shooter, like most folks deemed to be "criminals" and "threats" are usually vilified and demonized, before conviction and too often, for too long after the conviction.

This fact negates fairness-- especially in this case.

So it's ok not to be forgiving because other people aren't forgiving. Ok.

[Cindy]

Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson

Not yet, Cindy. I am interested in buying a taser for self defense, but that is a luxury item. I don't have luxury money right now.

Okay, I've heard is kind of dangerous where you live. If you did, would you shoot an idiot driver?

[Mike Williamson]

Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson

1) As a Christian, usually when I am offended, I do not reward the offense with another offense. If I wasn't saved, I would likely attempt to deliver retribution myself-- still don't think I'd shoot someone in this scenario.

2) You're simplifying it too much. The idiot driver's actions could have caused death. His victim's vehicle was forced off the road. Will incarcerating the shooter address this?

3) If his actions had caused death to one of your loved ones, would any punishment be fair? Would his punishment bring back your loved one who died senselessly because your car was forced off the road and you hit a tree?


There is nothing fair about the whole thing. Fairness would not be added by locking this good citizen up who got fed up with idiot drivers.

The difference between the two is that the driver's actions were most likely the result of negligence...The intent surely was not to harm anyone. The shooter certainly did intend to harm, possibly to kill. The response is way out of whack to the driver's offense.

You say you wouldn't shoot anyone, in this scenario. If you'd be willing to shoot anyone for any reason other than to protect your family or yourself from harm, you need serious prayer. This is most definitely a Christlike mindset.

If someone I loved were killed by another driver's negligence, I'd surely be angry...I may even wish them harm...but I'd be wrong. Let's turn it around...if my loved one were negligent and killed or hurt someone, would I agree that it would be justified for them to be shot? Many years ago, I pulled out and hit another car. I was negligent. Should I have been shot?

Getting fed up and shooting someone isn't justified in any rational person's mind. Should we all go around shooting people who anger us? Do things we don't like? Again, this certainly isn't a Christlike mindset.

Sounds to me like there's way too much of you in control and not enough of Jesus.