How close should a pastor get to the members?

[My Own Eyes]

Originally Posted by Bullwinkle

Dear My Own eyes
If you choose to take posts out of context you will continually be in online turmoil.
There were times when Jesus left the crowds to be with the twelve. That has nothing to do with God's love for an individual or God's presence in an individuals life.

Dear Mr. Bullwinkle,

I don't think you read more than my initial post to you, so I am going to take that into consideration and go easy on you and ignore the snide comment about "online turmoil".

As others before me have already pointed out, Jesus in the flesh was limited by the flesh, but Jesus in us is not. So for the most part our discussion is somewhat moot.

As for Pastors and their place....I will clue you in on that which most here already know (ad nauseum).... I don't necessarily believe that pastors have a place period, let alone think it's important how close they get to members of their congregation.

I think we are to love one another, and submit one to another, but I do not believe that anyone should be our spiritual authority, except God, and I do not believe I need any mediator between God and I (Except Jesus).

I should stress, that does not mean that I think I know everything, or that I am unteachable. Actually God uses many things (including people!) to teach me things all the time.

But I refuse to fall prey to the attitude that exists in so many pentecostal churches, that either the Holy Ghost is not strong enough to lead/guide/teach me, or that I am not smart/spiritual enough to hear Him.

To bring it back to the original topic, I will summarize by saying I do not believe that there should be a hierarchy of believers in the first place.