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12-16-2008, 12:42 PM
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Re: May I smoke here??!
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Originally Posted by Michael Phelps
That's been my premise all along, but you guys kept telling me I was saying smoking was ok.
Again, my argument is for consistency!
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You like straight answers, yours wasn't too straight. Is it a sin or not?
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12-16-2008, 12:43 PM
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Re: May I smoke here??!
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Originally Posted by 2020Vision
You like straight answers, yours wasn't too straight. Is it a sin or not?
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You tell me. You seem to know what I believe.
Go back and find my post. 
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12-16-2008, 12:45 PM
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Re: May I smoke here??!
Cigarette smoking, justification by faith, anti-standards, etc... some posters want the Apostolic Church to look like the church they left their Apostolic church for.
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12-16-2008, 12:45 PM
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Re: May I smoke here??!
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Originally Posted by Michael Phelps
Ha, sometimes I think you're St. Mark in disguise.Where did I say smoking was ok?
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Some folks can hurl insults with unabandon freedom but let others merely tease someone and it's the end of the world.
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12-16-2008, 12:45 PM
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Re: May I smoke here??!
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Originally Posted by Michael Phelps
You tell me. You seem to know what I believe.
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I found your post and it was ambiguous. Is it hard to just answer YES or NO?
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12-16-2008, 12:51 PM
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Re: May I smoke here??!
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Originally Posted by edjen01
just because something is preached as a sin....doesn't make it one. I think I understand the original post....and believe the problem isn't with smoking....its with the idea that everything MUST be defined as "sin" or "not-a-sin". Why? Why can't somethings just be "bad for you"....why do they need the label of "sin" attached to them? Have we(believers) become so void of thought & reason that we need someone to preach to us that ingesting smoke into our bodies will hurt us? Read the package!!
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Very good point! Paul says many time that its better to ____ than to ____ i.e. Its better to marry than burn. Is either a sin?
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12-16-2008, 12:52 PM
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Re: May I smoke here??!
AAk, the original poster. We KNOW for a fact he doesn't believe smoking is a sin. Or... does he? Please. Since we are all accused of making huge assumptions, how about it? Tell us what you believe? Phelps hasn't answered back.
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12-16-2008, 12:52 PM
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Re: May I smoke here??!
I no not believe smoking is a "sin".....but i also don't believe something has to be a "sin" or "not-a-sin".
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12-16-2008, 12:55 PM
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Re: May I smoke here??!
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Originally Posted by 2020Vision
I found your post and it was ambiguous. Is it hard to just answer YES or NO?
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Well, I can. However, I took exception with your statement that I said smoking was OK, since I NEVER said that.
I appreciate you admitting that you read something in to my post that wasn't there.
I am getting ready to get on a conference call, but when I'm finished, I'll detail my position unequivocally - deal?
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"Many people view their relationship with God like a "color by number" picture. It's easier to let someone else define the boundaries, tell them which blanks to fill in, and what color to use than it is for them to take a blank canvas and seek inspiration from the Source in order to paint their own masterpiece"
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12-16-2008, 12:55 PM
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Go Dodgers!
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Re: May I smoke here??!
Legalism
strict adherence, or the principle of strict adherence, to law or prescription, esp. to the letter rather than the spirit.
BTW, that something is not specifically mentioned in the bible does not mean there isn't a principle IN the bible covering it. I don't know that those individuals are looking for loopholes, but they certainly are ignorant to think it has to be explicitly spelled out, verbatim they way they claim it has to be. That's not legalism...it's foolishness, but not legalism.
On the other hand, we have to be careful with "principles" and such as they can become subjective tools too.
There are or is a principle in the bible that covers drugs and such things as tobacco.
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Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
- There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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