Statistics would indicate that most if not all full time ministers have seriously considered quitting even though they know they were called to what they were doing.
Main reasons indicated were loneliness, not feeling qualified, stress with many others.
Questions:
Have you ever "seriously" considered quitting?
Can you isolate the main compelling reason?
How did you get through it?
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Statistics would indicate that most if not all full time ministers have seriously considered quitting even though they know they were called to what they were doing.
Main reasons indicated were loneliness, not feeling qualified, stress with many others.
Questions:
Have you ever "seriously" considered quitting?
Can you isolate the main compelling reason?
How did you get through it?
I only thought about quitting once, and I did. It was more about disillusionment and discouragement. The idealism that all Christians should behave as Christians was a stumbling block to me. I never felt unqualified, except to counsel [no point of reference/training].
The feelings I have today are that I should have trusted God more and not allowed others to dictate my course. I apologized to God for giving up in the heat of battle. I still battle but in a different way. Man's expectations for me and God's are in direct opposition. I no longer listen to man. I pray and God talks to me.
There will be a day that I again submit to Pastoral authority but it will be because a trust relationship is built and not the insecurity of a Pastor to demand I submit and obey with no history of Pastoral consistency and trust. A true leader has people that are loyal and follow because they trust His wisdom and judgement not because they recite their credentials and prompt a signed agreement to Trust, honor, and obey.
The Bible tells us to pray for the gifts of wisdom and knowledge, but it also says in all the getting to seek understanding. You can have all the knowledge and wisdom from studies, but lack understanding of people and situations which cause more strife and dissention than just letting the tares grow up with the wheat and letting God sort it out in His time.
If I am ever in full time ministry again - I will be more aware, submissive, and full of grace than I was as a young Pastor's wife. The primary enemy of my soul which sabotogued my ministry was disillusionment and discouragement. I did not trust God enough. My advice to you is to stop looking at man and what they say about you - but trust God and what He says about you.
I work full time for a church. Are you referring only to those who preach or work in other capacities full time?
I know and have talked to many preachers who have felt like walking away from it all. I think everyone goes thru burnout
I guess I am talking to anyone who fits the bill. My question is from a statistical perspective. Statistics lack personal accounts and I am interested in what people are dealing with.
You make an interesting point of burnout. In my opinion there is no such thing as burnout in ministry. I think that Rhoni pointed out well that her quitting was based on putting too much confidence in man than God. IMO we only burn out when we are doing things apart from God, because God said that His grace is sufficient.
I heard a preacher once say that the Lord, "...arrested me in my tracks as I was walking out the door and said, 'you do so much for Me, but very little with Me." That has always stuck with me and I believe that is the source of burnout.
I guess I am talking to anyone who fits the bill. My question is from a statistical perspective. Statistics lack personal accounts and I am interested in what people are dealing with.
You make an interesting point of burnout. In my opinion there is no such thing as burnout in ministry. I think that Rhoni pointed out well that her quitting was based on putting too much confidence in man than God. IMO we only burn out when we are doing things apart from God, because God said that His grace is sufficient.
I heard a preacher once say that the Lord, "...arrested me in my tracks as I was walking out the door and said, 'you do so much for Me, but very little with Me." That has always stuck with me and I believe that is the source of burnout.
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I heard a preacher once say that the Lord, "...arrested me in my tracks as I was walking out the door and said, 'you do so much for Me, but very little with Me." That has always stuck with me and I believe that is the source of burnout.
You just summed up everything I was going to post.
I did walk away from full time ministry, I burned out. There were a lot of issues at play, but my part in the whole mess was definitely this.
I didn't burn out from doing too much, going too many places, meeting too many needs, helping too much, being at church too much. I burned out from not taking the time to just be with God. I was still worshiping, I was still studying, I was still learning. But I was doing all those good things for others (I was on the platform during worship..so even that was partially for others). I wasn't taking time alone, in my secret place, to just be with God.
I know I'll probably end up in full time ministry again. But I'm not in any hurry to get there. I'm taking my sweet time to study for *me* and learn about God for *me* and get to know Him for *me*.
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You just summed up everything I was going to post.
I did walk away from full time ministry, I burned out. There were a lot of issues at play, but my part in the whole mess was definitely this.
I didn't burn out from doing too much, going too many places, meeting too many needs, helping too much, being at church too much. I burned out from not taking the time to just be with God. I was still worshiping, I was still studying, I was still learning. But I was doing all those good things for others (I was on the platform during worship..so even that was partially for others). I wasn't taking time alone, in my secret place, to just be with God.
I know I'll probably end up in full time ministry again. But I'm not in any hurry to get there. I'm taking my sweet time to study for *me* and learn about God for *me* and get to know Him for *me*.
This is so true...so busy doing Kingdom ministries that we forget who's kingdom we are working in. The best way to recharge is time away with God to pursue a personal relationship with Christ.
I could say a lot about this. But... I won't. Talk too much now. But, yes, when I was an evangelist I thought about quitting. Note the word, WAS. I did quit. Haven't preached a sermon since 1987 and have no plans to do so in the future. The reasons for quitting are many and varied.
As an evangelist, I had many opportunities to pastor churches. My first pastorate was offered when I was 17. I declined becasue I felt I was too youg to pastor a church. Besides, I was not called to be a pastor. To be successful in whatever ministry one is called to, requires something the Lord taught me. 2Pe 1:10 Wherefore the rather, brethren, give diligence to make your calling and election sure: for if ye do these things, ye shall never fall:
1. You have to be called (CALLING). Having a desire, being asked, or just going isn't enough. You have to be called to the ministry. I think it was A.A. Allen who use to say, "Some are called, some are sent, and others just went." Pastor Johnny Cash (not THAT Johnny Cash, the other one) came to our church and preached, "So you think you are called to preach..." He did all he could do to discourage us. And he succeeded in discouraging some. He said, "Those who aren't discouraged, are called".
2. You have to know what you are called for. (Election) What area of ministry are you qualified for? I can't sing, so I'm not a Minister of Music. Alot of people are called to preach but never find the ministry office God has elected them to. Often they fail. By fail, I don't mean to imply they backslide, but rather, they fail to fulfill what God has elected for them to do.
Look at PastorKeith, for example. He was called, but, only recently (to my knowledge) has he beguin to fulfill his ministry office. His calling was sure, now his election is sure, and he is having good success. Remember: the word "success" appears only one time in the KJV and that is in conjunction with obeying the Lord. (Josh. 1:8) We cannot succeed in our lives and ministry unless we obey what He has called us to do. Successful preachers, pastors, evangelists or whatever the calling, are only successful to the extent that they are sure of both their calling and their election. And success isn't determined by the size of a church or ministry. Success is determined by the end results. The purpose of the minister is not necessarily to build mega-churches or to establish world wide ministries. The end result of a God called, and God ordained (ELECTED) ministry is....the people. (Eph 4:12-14). Whether its 10,000 people or 2, the successful end result is as Paul described.
When a minister, or a saint, for that matter, makes his or her CALLING and ELECTION sure, they will NEVER FAIL.
See? I talk too much.
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