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Old 12-29-2008, 12:12 AM
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TRANSCRIPT Of Message By HANEY!!!!!!!!!!!!

DID you see this!!!! This is transcribed from the Message that Haney preached where he talked about his big meeting with the Charismatic Leaders!!! This was posted on another preacher's forum!!



"This past week I was called upon to attend a forum in Southern California... Irvine area.

Actually, I had just canceled those three days about a month and a half before, and so when they called they said, "The meeting is urgent, we're sorry we could only let you know a week and a half in advance, but we feel it's of great importance and we want you, please Reverend Haney, to come." I asked my secretary, "Am I free?" she said, "you're free." I said, "Tell them I'll be there."

That meeting was a meeting of most all of the leaders of Pentecostal, quote/unquote, organizations and denominations in America. And most so-called "Charismatic" leaders. Talk about "The Great Speckled Bird", that was me! The discussion was on the subject of "What has happened to the Pentecostal/Charismatic Movement? It has lost something." Now, because of my position as the leader of the largest Oneness Pentecostal organization in the world, that's why I was there.

That evening in the discussion as I sat next to Dr. Jack Hayford, there were people there like Dr. Vinson Synan the notorious historian of Pentecostalism and others. Dr. Synan said to me at a coffee break, "Brother Haney, you people have found something that the rest of these folks don't know. What's going on?" He said, "You're still happy to be called Pentecostals and proud of it." I said, "Yes sir! I'm one of them!"

The discussion that night blew me out of the water, so to speak. I never dreamed in my wildest imagination that I would ever hear the kind of discussion... I'm talking about the largest Charismatic movements in the world there... and they were saying things like this; "Charismaticism will be over in the next two years... it's dying... we have nothing" things like this. This is the reason I'm not naming some of the people that were present there, because they were honest and they were sincere, and I became a friend to them. But they would say things like this, "we're sick of the froth and the foam. Nobody ever preaches on the Cross anymore." One of them said, "we hardly ever hear a message on repentance, and we're dying." It was amazing to hear. In fact, one young man who was over a large youth organization that is all across America got there a little late for the discussion, so when he walked in... we had already had a pretty lengthy discussion... one of the moderators, I think it was Jack Hayford over that session asked, "Ron, do you have anything to say?" He said, "Yes I do... I don't know what you've said, but I'm sick and tired of preachers getting a divorce one week and being on television preaching the next week." He said, "I think we ought to protest every TV station that would have such a man."

Folks, that's not one of us, that's them!

Why are you telling us all this? I'm telling you, we've got a hold of something so great, we can't afford to sell it out, and we'd better thank God we have it, and everyday you ought to talk in tongues and say, "I think you, Jesus for a pure heart! I thank you for a pastor that will preach the Truth to me! The unadulterated Word of God!"

In fact that night, I said... before... I said, "Gentlemen, I want to say something here. I never dreamed I would hear what I have heard from you. But this is the way we believe." In one discussion I was in, they said, "Well only about 20% of our new converts even receive the Holy Ghost." And I said, "I can answer that for you. When you preach it as a prerogative, it won't happen much longer. But when you preach it as part of the plan..." As the matter of fact, you may remember our choir from here sang at our great Azusa Street celebration. I was on the steering committee for that, and that same group from all around the world and from North America came, but the United Pentecostal Church rented the Olympic auditorium, and friends, we worked for almost a year before we got there, and people were getting the Holy Ghost in churches all around there... Pentecostal churches of course... you... Oneness Pentecostal churches. I remember driving up to the Olympic auditorium, I'd been in it, it seated a little over 6,000, but driving up to it, that night, and it was so packed there were lines outside trying to get in there. Many of these other groups had functions going, but there wasn't lines out there. As a matter of fact, in 10 days of activities there, 1400 received the baptism of the Holy Ghost in our meetings.. OUR meetings. Because we preach! And I doubt the whole bunch of them had a hundred receive the Holy Ghost in all of their meetings, because they don't preach it as part of the plan! "If you need a little extra 'boost', get the Holy Ghost." But Jesus said, "Ye SHALL receive power" As a matter of fact, everyone that was in the upper room was speaking in other tongues... EVERY LAST ONE OF THEM! Nobody was missed! This is a gift! And we'd better hold on to it as a gift every day of our lives and thank God for this wonderful gift of the Holy Ghost. Thank God for the revelation of who God really is! How many of you know that Jesus is God manifested in the flesh, and beside Him there is no other! This is the gift of God!

I find folks all over that want to be involved in some kind of a ministry, but I remind you that you have no ministry aside from the Holy Ghost."
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Old 12-29-2008, 12:20 AM
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Old 12-29-2008, 12:23 AM
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FOr those of you sending me PMs,I have 6 unread PMs in my box, I cannot read them because the admin have not fixed the problem.

I thought for sure it would have been fixed by the time I got home from church tonight
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what do you think of the this transcript Keith
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So is emergent church doctrine going to take the place of "...Charismaticism will be over in the next two years..." ???
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what do you think of the this transcript Keith
I have heard him say as much before, He is very good friends with Jack Hayford, Vinson S. is well aquaited with the UPCI, and he has publiclly stated the a higher percentage of UPCI people receive the Spirit that any other organization or Charismatic movement.
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So is emergent church doctrine going to take the place of "...Charismaticism will be over in the next two years..." ???

You're going to be in BIG trouble for saying that!

Most of the folk here on AFF are 100% for the emergent movement and
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You're going to be in BIG trouble for saying that!

Most of the folk here on AFF are 100% for the emergent movement and
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I think some of us are for the whole Relevant thing, I have doubts about some of the emergent guys, but I think they advocate good things. Would you rather be the opposite. a sub-merging church
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Old 12-29-2008, 01:29 AM
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You're going to be in BIG trouble for saying that!

Most of the folk here on AFF are 100% for the emergent movement and
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I thought it was a fair question. If, according to what Haney said, the Charismatics will soon be gone, does that mean emergent church will take their place. I can't see any of these Charismatics coming to the UPC.
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