Bill Drost

[Steve Epley]

Originally Posted by Sister Alvear

I did not know that. Does the UPC teach that?

Some missionaries particularly those from the Atlantic district did not believe the new birth. And in time they were weeded out.

[Sam]

Originally Posted by Sister Alvear

I did not know that. Does the UPC teach that?

When the UPC was formed in 1945 some ministers taught that salvation happened at repentance and was to be followed by water and Spirit baptism. Others believed a person was not saved until repentance plus water and Spirit baptism had happened. The "fundamental doctrine" statement was worded the way it was to accommodate those of both opinions. Some of the UPC General Board of 1945 believed that salvation happened at repentance and some believed all three steps had to happen before a person was saved.

General Superintendent Howard Goss; Missions Secretary Wynn Stairs; Sunday School Director E.E. McNatt; and some District Presbyters (Brothers Greer and Yadon to name a couple) of the original UPC as it was formed in 1945 believed in what we term "one-step" salvation here. The original edition of the Pentecostal Herald (December 1945) said articles could be submitted from either viewpoint.

The "one-step" doctrine does not seem as prevalent in the UPC as it once was. I would have no idea what percentage of UPC ministers would be one-step or three-step today in 2009.

[Sister Alvear]

I only know stories of Brother Drost through stories my husband tells me...He seemed to be quite a man! He won my husbands heart when my husband was 12 I believe it was by buying him icecream and shoes for his birthday!
Strange but children grow to become adults but seldom forget some act of kindness shown to them.
I met Sister Ruth and we wrote back and forth for a long time years ago but they were no longer in South America they were in Spain.

[Sister Alvear]

I have no personal knowledge of what they personally believed...guess I thought they believed Acts 2:38.

[Sam]

Originally Posted by Sister Alvear

I have no personal knowledge of what they personally believed...guess I thought they believed Acts 2:38.

They did believe Acts 2:38.
They preached Acts 2:38.
They practiced Acts 2:38.

They just believed a person was justified/saved/regenerated at repentance and subsequently got baptized in Jesus' Name and received the Holy Ghost Baptism.

[ChTatum]

Originally Posted by Sam

They did believe Acts 2:38.
They preached Acts 2:38.
They practiced Acts 2:38.

They just believed a person was justified/saved/regenerated at repentance and subsequently got baptized in Jesus' Name and received the Holy Ghost Baptism.

I preach Acts 2:38 strong and hard, but God saves, not me. In recent times, I have come to think if someone repents, they have entered into covenant relationship, covenant meaning contract, with obligations on both parties, in the legal sense of the word "covenant".

Should death precede fulfilling covenant obligations, we have an advocate with the Father.

[Jermyn Davidson]

Originally Posted by Sam

They did believe Acts 2:38.
They preached Acts 2:38.
They practiced Acts 2:38.

They just believed a person was justified/saved/regenerated at repentance and subsequently got baptized in Jesus' Name and received the Holy Ghost Baptism.

I thank God Almighty for His precious truth!

[Sister Alvear]

I thought they had some kind of belief sheet they had to sign?

[Steve Epley]

Originally Posted by Sister Alvear

I thought they had some kind of belief sheet they had to sign?

The Atalntic district came in as a group not individuals.

[Sister Alvear]

I hate to go around to churches begging! Not all missionaries have to do this but many of us do...that is what I HATE about mission work...