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01-02-2009, 10:22 PM
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Jesus' Name Pentecostal
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Re: Bill Drost
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Originally Posted by Sister Alvear
Brother Epley what do you mean by that? ( They did not believe in the New Birth Message.)
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Bro. Bill Drost and Bro. Wynn Stairs were what we call "one-steppers" on this forum.
It's not that they did not believe in the new birth --they believed a person was born again prior to water and Spirit baptism.
When Bro. Epley says, "They did not believe the New Birth Message," he means, "They did not believe the (three-step) New Birth Message as currently taught by many Oneness Pentecostals."
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01-03-2009, 05:15 AM
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Sister Alvear
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Re: Bill Drost
Well, that I do not know but I do know he baptized in Jesus Name and believed in the infilling of the HG...
Could we say that just those 3 steps saves a person? I think not...There are many steps to be saved! One of the steps is following on to know Him, another step is bearing fruit of a christian, another step is LOVE...and on and on...
However I now understand what Brother Epley meant...
I personally feel there are a lot of steps to be saved...and I am still taking them!
Saved at repentance .... one step....repentance,water baptism, HG ...three step....
Becoming like HIM...thousands of steps....
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01-03-2009, 06:54 AM
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Re: Bill Drost
Sister Ruth Drost lives in Fredericton, N.B. Canada as does her youngest son Verner who pastors Symthe Street Cathedral. Gerald and Dawn live an hour away in Woodstock N.B.,they pastor a church in Maine.
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01-03-2009, 07:53 AM
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Re: Bill Drost
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Originally Posted by Sister Alvear
Brother Epley what do you mean by that? ( They did not believe in the New Birth Message.)
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They did not believe the necessity of obeying Acts 2:38 to be born again.
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01-03-2009, 08:06 AM
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Sister Alvear
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Re: Bill Drost
How did they say a person is born again?
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01-03-2009, 08:11 AM
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Sister Alvear
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Re: Bill Drost
I only know stories of Brother Drost through stories my husband tells me...He seemed to be quite a man! He won my husbands heart when my husband was 12 I believe it was by buying him icecream and shoes for his birthday!
Strange but children grow to become adults but seldom forget some act of kindness shown to them.
I met Sister Ruth and we wrote back and forth for a long time years ago but they were no longer in South America they were in Spain.
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01-03-2009, 08:11 AM
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Re: Bill Drost
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Originally Posted by Sister Alvear
How did they say a person is born again?
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They taught folks were born again at repentance.
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01-03-2009, 08:13 AM
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Sister Alvear
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Re: Bill Drost
I have no personal knowledge of what they personally believed...guess I thought they believed Acts 2:38.
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01-03-2009, 08:14 AM
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Sister Alvear
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Re: Bill Drost
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Originally Posted by Steve Epley
They taught folks were born again at repentance.
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I did not know that. Does the UPC teach that?
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01-03-2009, 08:19 AM
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Re: Bill Drost
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Originally Posted by Sister Alvear
I did not know that. Does the UPC teach that?
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Some missionaries particularly those from the Atlantic district did not believe the new birth. And in time they were weeded out.
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