And I would only respond that the "wrecking ball" swings both ways and usually only recognized as swinging ONE way. At least that's my observation.
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Correct! There are iconoclasts representing each segment of the Apostolic faith!
hmmm.... I think i disagree. There might be a strong contengent of traditionalists (in one form or another) who oppose what the neo-apostolics are doing, but I wouldnt call them iconoclasts. They dont oppose the standard. They oppose those of you who are working so diligently at taking thier system apart... of course the taking apart is being done with the intention of building your own system afterwards....
but that doesnt mean those who oppose you are equal to you. THIS wrecking ball swings one way MOW. It is opposed for sure, but it only swings one way.
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in the context of AFF and the Apostolic movement MOW, it is my humble opinion that you are happy to have done a good deal of both questioning and tearing down....
And based on at least one very very very long thread here on AFF, it seems to me that you fancy yourself as some sort of iconoclast where certain Oneness Pentecostal doctrines are concerned....
not a shot, just my own personal observation...
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1 thread with quite a lot in it that explains quite a lot about you. You are comfortable in your own skin (and thats a good thing), I am not making a judgment here just an observation.
the one thread serves as a clear indicator but we both know there is more and there is no need to delve deeper.
There are a LOT of Apostolic Iconoclasts mucking about the internet these days. Most want to rebuild their own version from the rubble.
In some ways I fit that mold too. Im just not trying to distroy the structure and the foundations.... more like moving some furniture around and switching out some of the pictures on the walls....
others seem to have wrecking ball and a jack hammer. Its that wreckingball and jackhammer that cause the most alarm for those of us that are.... coming from my perspective? Standing where I stand?
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Originally Posted by Ferd
hmmm.... I think i disagree. There might be a strong contengent of traditionalists (in one form or another) who oppose what the neo-apostolics are doing, but I wouldnt call them iconoclasts. They dont oppose the standard. They oppose those of you who are working so diligently at taking thier system apart... of course the taking apart is being done with the intention of building your own system afterwards....
but that doesnt mean those who oppose you are equal to you. THIS wrecking ball swings one way MOW. It is opposed for sure, but it only swings one way.
I believe the true later day Apostolic church was hi-jacked by the conservative segment. As this church re-emerges, traditionalists are trying their best to destroy it before it gains momentum. Of course, this is my opinion!
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I believe the true later day Apostolic church was hi-jacked by the conservative segment. As this church re-emerges, traditionalists are trying their best to destroy it before it gains momentum. Of course, this is my opinion!
I agree.
Keep in mind that the original Pentecostal movement was made up of iconoclasts dismantling the Catholic/Protestant systems.
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I believe the true later day Apostolic church was hi-jacked by the conservative segment. As this church re-emerges, traditionalists are trying their best to destroy it before it gains momentum. Of course, this is my opinion!
And you are awesome for having an opinion, too! But Ferd made some excellent points and is always awesome when he does. Just my opinion!
I agree PO, Ferd does bring points from another viewpoint.
Alas, I wonder what good it does.
Basically, people express their opinions to let it be known how they feel about things/issues. It only does good to those that agree! Isn't that the way it always and only works?
Basically, people express their opinions to let it be known how they feel about things/issues. It only does good to those that agree! Isn't that the way it always and only works?
I don't mind reading any opposing thoughts or opinions. When they are forced down my throat and it feels like I'm being forced to change my views, then I don't like it. Vice versa for all - it goes both ways.
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