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01-30-2009, 10:43 PM
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Re: Can a person have the holy ghost and be demon
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Originally Posted by Praxeas
How can someone be filled with the Spirit and yet have a demon living in the same person? Just doens't make sense
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I never said Spirit FILLED people experience this. I believe FILLED by very definition implies there are degrees. Fullness disallows this to occur. Paul told the Ephesians to be filled with the Spirit. They already were Spirit baptized. So why did he say this? It is because one might have the Spirit of God but is not filled with it. The same people, including Peter, who were filled on the day of Pentecost were FILLED AGAIN in Acts 4. Again, this implies the same principle I propose about Spirit filling.
But the inflection in the context of Paul's words to the Ephesians speaks of being fully influenced by the Spirit of God through full yielding to Him. That disallows any chance for anything evil to work. But without that full yieldedness to the Spirit of God, there are opportunities the devil can work on until one has yielded to sin so much that a spirit can enter.
So, having the Holy Ghost is not necessarily being filled with it. And we must understand man is spirit, soul and body, and only the Human Spirit is born again and one with His Spirit when Spirit baptized. The SOUL is not a phyiscal place any more than the human spirit is. And the soul is the mind. Our minds can be dark although we have the Spirit of God in our spirits. And the enemy finds "place" in anything that is darkness. Darkness does not mean a spirit is there, but it could lead to it.
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01-31-2009, 09:06 AM
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Re: Can a person have the holy ghost and be demon
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Have any of you actually seen a demon come out of someone?
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I've heard about it but never seen it personally. I did see a woman get sick and begin throwing up while we prayed trying to cast a demon out of her.
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01-31-2009, 09:10 AM
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Re: Can a person have the holy ghost and be demon
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I've heard about it but never seen it personally. I did see a woman get sick and begin throwing up while we prayed trying to cast a demon out of her.
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I think I remember you talking about this before.
Do you mind sharing more of the story?
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01-31-2009, 09:15 AM
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Re: Can a person have the holy ghost and be demon
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How can someone be filled with the Spirit and yet have a demon living in the same person? Just doens't make sense
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Amen, no one who is filled with the Holy Ghost can be filled with Legion.
Bible says you CANNOT serve two masters. You will only allow one to lead you.
Prax 
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01-31-2009, 09:16 AM
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Re: Can a person have the holy ghost and be demon
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I think I remember you talking about this before.
Do you mind sharing more of the story?
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That kind of story can get messy. 
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01-31-2009, 09:19 AM
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Re: Can a person have the holy ghost and be demon
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I've heard about it but never seen it personally. I did see a woman get sick and begin throwing up while we prayed trying to cast a demon out of her.
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I have seen it happen. And the demon had an actual form, although not easy to describe. And you could see it move around the church until one brother opened the door and it went outside.
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He hath shewed thee, O man, what is good; and what doth the LORD require of thee, but to do justly, and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with thy God? Micah 6:8 KJV
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01-31-2009, 09:25 AM
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Re: Can a person have the holy ghost and be demon
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That kind of story can get messy. |
There is that. lol
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God did it for us. Out of sheer generosity he put us in right standing with himself. A pure gift. He got us out of the mess we're in and restored us to where he always wanted us to be. And he did it by means of Jesus Christ. ~Romans 3:24 from The Message
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01-31-2009, 09:41 AM
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Re: Can a person have the holy ghost and be demon
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Originally Posted by Aquila
I've heard about it but never seen it personally. I did see a woman get sick and begin throwing up while we prayed trying to cast a demon out of her.
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I have seen it happen. And the demon had an actual form, although not easy to describe. And you could see it move around the church until one brother opened the door and it went outside.
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I have seen this also,
The lady practicly "slithered" up to the alter.. its not a pretty sight and can be frightening for one not full of faith..
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01-31-2009, 09:42 AM
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Re: Can a person have the holy ghost and be demon
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Originally Posted by scotty
I have seen this also,
The lady practicly "slithered" up to the alter.. its not a pretty sight and can be frightening for one not full of faith..
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I was a kid and not at the altar, just sitting in a pew looking around. I was probably among the few that actually saw it. I will never forget it though.
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If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.
2 Chronicles 7:14 KJV
He hath shewed thee, O man, what is good; and what doth the LORD require of thee, but to do justly, and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with thy God? Micah 6:8 KJV
Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is. 1 John 3:2 KJV
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01-31-2009, 09:48 AM
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Re: Can a person have the Holy Ghost and be demon
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Originally Posted by nahkoe
They're saying that we're not calling enough things spirits? Or, not calling a spirit a spirit in favor of calling it something else? Or something else completely? lol Just curious what they're saying...I'd love to know the why as well.
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Not calling it a spirit in favor of not offending.
We are now in a feel good society, don't tell me anything unpleasant.
BTW...you can't cast out something that is not there.
To be honest I don't think there are a lot of people that have understanding in this area. Many do not want to be around anyone that has a spirit being cast out. And if they are not pleading the Blood of Jesus over themselves they shouldn't be.
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